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#1 The Voice of Truth

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 11:55 AM

If Peyton Were Our QB:

Robert Woods would go to the Pro Bowl this year

Sammy Watkins would be offensive rookie of the year and probably go to the Pro Bowl

Spiller would lead the league in receiving yards for a running back

And so on...

I really feel for the players on our team that do not reach their potential because of the quarterback.  It has to be frustrating.  Even for the defense; just knowing that the offense can;t put up points or stay on the field is demoralizing.  I'm really starting to doubt EJ (not that I didn't before, but just I feel more secure in my doubt now).  I don't really see him turning into the franchise QB we all crave.  And if he doesn't, we'll keep losing and lots of players will not get near their potential.  Just sucks.

#2 MarkAF43

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 12:02 PM

we would claim he stares down receivers, has slow eyes, can't run, and demand the bum be benched.

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 12:03 PM

13-3

#4 YoloinOhio

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 12:03 PM

Personally, the individual awards and stats mean nothing without wins. The last 4 SB winners were russell Wilson, joe Flacco, and Eli. Who wouldn't love to have Peyton manning? Oh - the colts. Lol.

He is an amazing QB. But other teams have managed to win without him.

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 12:03 PM

As of 8/18/14, these are the only facts we have about this year.

He's not.

It's preseason, gameplans are about job interviews and certain purposeful, situational and live game attempts of unconventional things. It's nice to watch a preseason game and see a team go up 34 to 0 like the Broncos did to the 49ers or a nail biter back and forth down the the wire. Fact of the matter is, those game, although nice, can be very misleading about who to keep and cut when it comes down to the final 53. That is why coaches and players alike do not put so much emphasis on individual preseason games. There is more to the preseason then what we see. They are just extensions of training camp that allow a coach to see where they are, outside of stats. Stats matter to us, even in practice.

I get it. It just isnt fun to watch but it's not always what it seems.

Edited by ninja rooster, 18 August 2014 - 12:05 PM.


#6 FluffHead

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 12:04 PM

Championship

#7 SageAgainstTheMachine

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 12:10 PM

Yes.  If a top-3 all time quarterback were our quarterback then we'd be really good and our offensive skill players would realize the height of their potential.

Thing is, nobody who's better than Manuel (who is...what?  A top-621 all time quarterback?) is going to play QB for the Bills this year, so we better hope he has some upside.

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 12:17 PM

I was a big believer in EJ when we first drafted him and I still really like him.  To me he looks like the classic overcoached QB.  I am no expert - I have never played the position... but it seems to me that the QB has about 2 seconds to make a quality decision - the more we give him to think about the slower and slower he gets.  I felt like we did a similar kind of harm to Bledsoe with alarm clocks and all sorts of coaching.  Are our "new" coaches not secure enough to let this kid fly once in a while or is it their duty to coach every aspect all of the time.

Just my take and I could be totally wrong... what do people who have played QB before think.

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 12:17 PM

Sounds like you have some real inside information. It's worth delving into. Not like the unintelligible and insidious drivel that we usually condemn to be inappropriate. Your take is refreshing, but a little intoxicating.

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 12:32 PM

Seriously guys? Is this where this pre-season has gotten to?  If we had an elite QB the other players on offense would be better? No **** Sherlock.

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 12:59 PM

View PostMarkAF43, on 18 August 2014 - 12:02 PM, said:

we would claim he stares down receivers, has slow eyes, can't run, and demand the bum be benched.
This is about right

Meanwhile some kid named EJ would be on the bench and wed be screaming to give the kid a shot!

View PostBillyBaroo, on 18 August 2014 - 12:17 PM, said:

I was a big believer in EJ when we first drafted him and I still really like him.  To me he looks like the classic overcoached QB.  I am no expert - I have never played the position... but it seems to me that the QB has about 2 seconds to make a quality decision - the more we give him to think about the slower and slower he gets.  I felt like we did a similar kind of harm to Bledsoe with alarm clocks and all sorts of coaching.  Are our "new" coaches not secure enough to let this kid fly once in a while or is it their duty to coach every aspect all of the time.

Just my take and I could be totally wrong... what do people who have played QB before think.
I actually think quite the opposite. They put a lot of trust in him to run a hurry up offense. Very few protection errors and no delay of games I can remember. EJ is by all accounts a sponge. If the kid keeps asking, you keep teaching

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 01:01 PM

View PostFluffHead, on 18 August 2014 - 12:04 PM, said:

Championship
Maybe AFC Championship, then another SB loss.


#13 What a Tuel

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 01:03 PM

View PostCaptain Hindsight, on 18 August 2014 - 12:59 PM, said:

This is about right

Meanwhile some kid named EJ would be on the bench and wed be screaming to give the kid a shot!


Exactly. "Manning is old, washed up. We should try to trade him while he still has value!"

#14 Mango

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 01:09 PM

I really don't like this at all.

Take arguably the best QB of all time, while he is still a gun slinger, and put him on any roster...at all...anywhere in the league, and they become exponentially better.  Name a starting WR, RB, and rookie like Sammy who has played with Peyton and not made the probowl or won an award at least once. When Peyton is behind center, the rest of the skill positions don't matter.  He makes everybody special, regardless of ability.

Better thread, if average an average or slightly above average established QB in the NFL were behind center, what would the result be?  So Cutler, Bradford, Dalton, Stafford, Schaub, Rivers (I am actually really high on Rivers and think he well surpasses average).  Insert Peyton and it is formulaic. WR 1 makes probowl, first round rookie WR is rookie of the year, RB 1 is top 10 in rushing, and top 5 in all purpose yards. We aren't special in your scenario.  Hell Atlanta is a good team with struggles and a lot of questions after last year.  Insert Peyton and no more questions

#15 enlightener

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 01:43 PM

does sean peyton play quarterback?

Edited by enlightener, 18 August 2014 - 01:43 PM.


#16 Chandler#81

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 01:52 PM

.. We'd be 0-5 in the Super Bowl.


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 03:01 PM

View PostChandler#81, on 18 August 2014 - 01:52 PM, said:

.. We'd be 0-5 in the Super Bowl.

Love it! Can't count on Peyton when the chips are down! How many other qbs have played with 2 players from this list: http://en.wikipedia....00_career_sacks ?

#18 Nanker

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 03:32 PM

If Peyton were our quarterback, The Denver Broncos would be "our" team.

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 03:50 PM

View PostThe Voice of Truth, on 18 August 2014 - 11:55 AM, said:

If Peyton Were Our QB:

Robert Woods would go to the Pro Bowl this year

Sammy Watkins would be offensive rookie of the year and probably go to the Pro Bowl

Spiller would lead the league in receiving yards for a running back

And so on...

I really feel for the players on our team that do not reach their potential because of the quarterback.  It has to be frustrating.  Even for the defense; just knowing that the offense can;t put up points or stay on the field is demoralizing.  I'm really starting to doubt EJ (not that I didn't before, but just I feel more secure in my doubt now).  I don't really see him turning into the franchise QB we all crave.  And if he doesn't, we'll keep losing and lots of players will not get near their potential.  Just sucks.

Peyton is one of the best to play the game. However, he lost another SB with all of the weapons he had last year. But if he were our QB he would throw for what? 15k yards, and make everyone a pro bowler. Whatever....

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 03:58 PM

If Peyton was our QB, this is what would happen: In the opener, Hackett would call one of these annoying "read-option" plays, and ask Manning to keep the ball and run. He'd run into Jared Allen, who'd promptly obliterate Peyton, who would suffer a season-ending neck injury. Then we would have Manuel starting for the remaining 15 games (or until he likewise is injured).