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#1 Maury Ballstein

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 07:15 AM

Was it you who stole Jesse Williams caviar ?

http://www.slate.com...bet_awards.html

Edited by Ryan L Billz, 08 July 2016 - 10:27 AM.


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Posted 06 July 2016 - 07:27 AM

My 40 acres and a mule n***a.

#3 Joe Miner

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 07:29 AM

A kid was killed by cops. Ergo 2012 is not a better time for black people than 1612. Said on Black Entertainment Television by a black man at an awards ceremony for black people.

That's PPP logic right there.

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 08:03 AM

Was it you who stole Jesse Williams caviar ?

http://www.slate.com...bet_awards.html

 

 

I'm guessing you stole their pot.



#5 joesixpack

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 08:05 AM

Not enough. 



#6 Maury Ballstein

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 08:27 AM

I'm guessing you stole their pot.


It's not a joke white devil !

#7 B-Man

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 09:22 AM

I sang a Prince song (to myself) so I believe that I am guilty of appropriating Black culture.

 

 

Mea Culpa..........



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Posted 06 July 2016 - 09:45 AM

I sang a Prince song (to myself) so I believe that I am guilty of appropriating Black culture.

 

 

Mea Culpa..........

 

 

Geez I thought I knew all of Prince's songs but I don't know that one.  Or is Mea Culpa some hot chick Prince was hooked up with?



#9 LABillzFan

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 09:47 AM

His interesting comment was this:

 

What we’ve been doing is looking at the data and we know that police somehow manage to de-escalate, disarm, and not kill white people every day.

 

Some good advice from Chris Rock:

 

 



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Posted 06 July 2016 - 10:01 AM

 

 

Geez I thought I knew all of Prince's songs but I don't know that one.  Or is Mea Culpa some hot chick Prince was hooked up with?

 

 

No............that was Maya Culpa.......... :flirt:

 

 

Sorry for the confusion, I was just flashing back to my altar boy days.

 

Mea Culpa,

Mea Culpa,

Mea Maxima Culpa



#11 Joe Miner

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 10:05 AM

 
 
No............that was Maya Culpa.......... :flirt:
 
 
Sorry for the confusion, I was just flashing back to my altar boy days.
 
Mea Culpa,
Mea Culpa,
Mea Maxima Culpa


Wasn't Maya Culpa that poet?

#12 KD in CA

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 01:23 PM

His interesting comment was this:

 

 

Some good advice from Chris Rock:

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I think this idiot is missing the point.  It's not the police who are deescalating those situations.  If a white guy ignores a cops' directions and tries to grab his gun, guess what happens?



#13 Maury Ballstein

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 01:56 PM

Yeah, I think this idiot is missing the point.  It's not the police who are deescalating those situations.  If a white guy ignores a cops' directions and tries to grab his gun, guess what happens?


Very true although the newest cop killing video Alton Sterling should have those 2 cops arrested for murder.

While roughing the guy up and his hands pinned they see a gun and blast away.

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 03:38 PM

Very true although the newest cop killing video Alton Sterling should have those 2 cops arrested for murder.
While roughing the guy up and his hands pinned they see a gun and blast away.


You must have seen a different video, because I didn't see where both hands were "pinned". Can you post the video link to the video that you saw?

#15 jr1

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 04:01 PM

The older Jesse gets the more he looks like Andrew Sullivan



#16 Maury Ballstein

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 04:06 PM

You must have seen a different video, because I didn't see where both hands were "pinned". Can you post the video link to the video that you saw?

It's the same one that you saw, that's all over the web.

One cop hits him with the belly to belly suplex for some reason then they both have him on ground and yell there's a gun then it's goodnight Irene.

You think it was justified ? Didn't appear the dead guy had any real ability to draw a gun in his position.

Furthermore why did the police get rid of the video footage from the convenience store ? Nothing to hide right ?

Edited by Ryan L Billz, 06 July 2016 - 04:29 PM.


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Posted 06 July 2016 - 04:20 PM

Well what it looks like we didn't steal was their gum. Dude if you're about to give the biggest speech of your life I highly suggest you ditch the gum.   :doh:



#18 Sig1Hunter

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 04:31 PM

It's the same one that you saw, that's all over the web.
One cop hits him with the belly to belly suplex for some reason then they both have him on ground and yell there's a gun then it's goodnight Irene.
You think it was justified ? Didn't appear the dead guy had any real ability to draw a gun in his position.


Hm, I don't know if it's justified. And, my point is that instead of joining another growing horde of ignorance, we should step back and wait for facts to be revealed before making any kind of judgements.

I will tell you that it appears as if his right hand is not secured, and one can easily fire a gun from a supine position. We don't know if there was a gun, and if there was where it was. Taking some hypotheticals...if there was a gun and the dead guy reached for it, are we expecting the Leo to wait for him to grab the gun and point it at him before he is justified to shoot?

As far as the "belly to belly suplex", it sounded as if the taser had been deployed to no effect. Which, the next thing is going hands on. That's the way it's done.

#19 Maury Ballstein

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 04:35 PM

Hm, I don't know if it's justified. And, my point is that instead of joining another growing horde of ignorance, we should step back and wait for facts to be revealed before making any kind of judgements.
I will tell you that it appears as if his right hand is not secured, and one can easily fire a gun from a supine position. We don't know if there was a gun, and if there was where it was. Taking some hypotheticals...if there was a gun and the dead guy reached for it, are we expecting the Leo to wait for him to grab the gun and point it at him before he is justified to shoot?
As far as the "belly to belly suplex", it sounded as if the taser had been deployed to no effect. Which, the next thing is going hands on. That's the way it's done.


According to "sources" there was a gun in his pocket.

Seems rough, but being a cop thrust into the situation has to be rough as well.

#20 Sig1Hunter

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 04:51 PM

According to "sources" there was a gun in his pocket.
Seems rough, but being a cop thrust into the situation has to be rough as well.


If that is true, and he moved to get that gun...especially after being expressly told not to reach for the gun (or there would be life ending consequences), it's justified all day long. He had already threatened someone with the gun, and now he is moving to get the gun after they told him not to touch it. I believe it is safe to presume that reaching for the gun showed intent to do violence. He wouldn't reach for it to hand it to the cops, especially after they just said "if you go for the gun, we will shoot you" (paraphrase). So, I don't see how anyone in their right mind could call for a murder prosecution...if he had a gun and moved towards taking possession of it. Sure, it "looks bad" because the cop is on top of him and at close range. It's ugly. It has bad optics. I have news for you though, guns fire up just as well as they do down.

But, I will wait for all the facts before rendering an educated opinion on whether it is justified or not.