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#941 Tiberius

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Posted Yesterday, 01:57 PM

 

No, sir. You can spin this all you want but you've made your case crystal clear. As have I.

 

I've pointed out there is direct funding, arming, training and intelligence sharing with ISIS in Syria to overthrow Assad. Instead of fighting ISIS in Syria, elements of the US IC are actively supporting ISIS. This is a fact whether you acknowledge it or not, backed up by evidence throughout this thread from all sorts of sources.  

 

Now we're learning the bomber in Manchester was in Syria receiving his training... from ISIS fighters supported by the US. Another fact you're going to have a hard time reconciling as you deal with the hate burning in your heart.  

 

Hate is the only explanation. You're so driven by hate and blood lust for killing Russians that you're willing to overlook a battlefield alliance with people who blow up little girls in England because it serves your goal. 

 

Which is sad. And dangerous. Your hate has corrupted your moral compass and your ability to look at the situation rationally. 

 

I truly hope you find peace one day. It's not too late. :beer:

 

 

 

 

Your words. Your philosophy. You cannot get a positive from a negative, friend. Until you make a change, you're never going to find peace. 

war war war....what's it good for?? 



#942 reddogblitz

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Posted Yesterday, 01:59 PM

war war war....what's it good for??

Absolutely nuthin'

Edited by reddogblitz, Yesterday, 02:00 PM.


#943 row_33

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Posted Yesterday, 02:18 PM

Absolutely nuthin'

 

stole it from Tolstoy apparently.



#944 Foxx

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Posted Yesterday, 02:26 PM

 

Yeah but to put it in contect, the US Army (or any Federally funded organization for that matter) losing $1.3B is like you or I losing pocket change in the seat cushions

come on. you don't think they really 'lost' 1.3 billion of equipment do you?


 

How does Wall Street make more money with less income flowing through the system?

well, one way is a neat little thing they devised called, derivatives. of which, the derivative market is estimated to be 1.2 quadrillion which is rather low to be honest.



#945 meazza

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Posted Yesterday, 02:38 PM

come on. you don't think they really 'lost' 1.3 billion of equipment do you?


well, one way is a neat little thing they devised called, derivatives. of which, the derivative market is estimated to be 1.2 quadrillion which is rather low to be honest.

 

Explain how.



#946 GG

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Posted Yesterday, 03:36 PM

 

Explain how.

 

That should be fun.



#947 grinreaper

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Posted Yesterday, 03:38 PM

 

Really. Also, I'll stop worrying about Wall Street when they stop doing things like 2008.

What precipitated and was the catalyst for that recession?



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Posted Yesterday, 03:43 PM

What precipitated and was the catalyst for that recession?

 

c'mon, it was racist for banks to ask people with no job or credit history how they intend to pay back the $200,000 they were asking to get a house.



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Posted Yesterday, 04:08 PM

 

c'mon, it was racist for banks to ask people with no job or credit history how they intend to pay back the $200,000 they were asking to get a house.

 

I don't think it was poor legislation that perpetrated the mortgage bundling frauds that were going on at Lehman and elsewhere. Did government have a role to play? Yes. But was government responsible for the Credit Default Swap mess? Nope. That's on Wall Street.



#950 row_33

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Posted Yesterday, 04:11 PM

joe, let's say that "wall street" consists of several entities (say 1,000,000) acting independently of each other, with a very wide set of goals for short and long term strategies and tactics.

 

there is no monolithic "wall street" except for the lazy MSM reporting that one stock's movement caused every entity to suddenly wake up and react the same way



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Posted Yesterday, 04:15 PM

joe, let's say that "wall street" consists of several entities (say 1,000,000) acting independently of each other, with a very wide set of goals for short and long term strategies and tactics.

 

there is no monolithic "wall street" except for the lazy MSM reporting that one stock's movement caused every entity to suddenly wake up and react the same way

 

You realize of course that Wall Street is essentially run by a handful of investment banks, don't you?



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Posted Yesterday, 04:16 PM

 

I don't think it was poor legislation that perpetrated the mortgage bundling frauds that were going on at Lehman and elsewhere. Did government have a role to play? Yes. But was government responsible for the Credit Default Swap mess? Nope. That's on Wall Street.

'n not a one jailed for that whole shitpile.



#953 /dev/null

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Posted Yesterday, 04:18 PM

 

You realize of course that Wall Street is essentially run by a handful of investment banks, don't you?

And they're all run by the sons of Abraham.  amirite?



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Posted Yesterday, 04:22 PM

And they're all run by the sons of Abraham.  amirite?


Nah.

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Posted Yesterday, 04:27 PM

 
You realize of course that Wall Street is essentially run by a handful of investment banks, don't you?


Name them all.

#956 grinreaper

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Posted Yesterday, 04:31 PM

 

I don't think it was poor legislation that perpetrated the mortgage bundling frauds that were going on at Lehman and elsewhere. Did government have a role to play? Yes. But was government responsible for the Credit Default Swap mess? Nope. That's on Wall Street.

Start out looking at the history of the CRA.



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Posted Yesterday, 04:32 PM

 
No, sir. You can spin this all you want but you've made your case crystal clear. As have I.
 
I've pointed out there is direct funding, arming, training and intelligence sharing with ISIS in Syria to overthrow Assad. Instead of fighting ISIS in Syria, elements of the US IC are actively supporting ISIS. This is a fact whether you acknowledge it or not, backed up by evidence throughout this thread from all sorts of sources.  
 
Now we're learning the bomber in Manchester was in Syria receiving his training... from ISIS fighters supported by the US. Another fact you're going to have a hard time reconciling as you deal with the hate burning in your heart.  
 
Hate is the only explanation. You're so driven by hate and blood lust for killing Russians that you're willing to overlook a battlefield alliance with people who blow up little girls in England because it serves your goal. 
 
Which is sad. And dangerous. Your hate has corrupted your moral compass and your ability to look at the situation rationally. 
 
I truly hope you find peace one day. It's not too late. :beer:
 
 
 
 
Your words. Your philosophy. You cannot get a positive from a negative, friend. Until you make a change, you're never going to find peace. 


Am I supposed to be ashamed that I hate a regime that's responsible for 100 million murders and wartime deaths? Really?

You know who else took inspiration from Russia?

#958 Deranged Rhino

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Posted Yesterday, 04:39 PM

Manchester bomber probably had ISIS training, US official says

 

http://www.cnn.com/2...k-uk/index.html

 

... Again, as the propaganda about this bombing continues to flood the airwaves, direct your outrage at the correct sources. ISIS is the enemy, yet is being armed, funded and protected by our own IC.

 

This is yet another "known wolf" receiving training from ISIS in Syria, a group which is actively receiving funding, training, and intel from the US and western allies in that area. While the US uses the war against ISIS as an excuse to roll back constitutional protections and inflate the budgets of the MiC they're simultaneously working with their stated enemy and looking the other way when one of their fighters pops up (at a perfect time to change the narrative in both the UK and US... but I digress) to commit a heinous act against innocent civilians. 

 

This should outrage every American. This is a direct result of our dangerous policy of regime change through any means necessary. We're working with monsters in Syria and pretending that we're there for humanitarian reasons. 

 

It's a damn shame. 


Am I supposed to be ashamed that I hate a regime that's responsible for 100 million murders and wartime deaths? Really?
 

 

You should be, yes. Why? Because you're too smart of a person to be so blinded by hate and blood lust. The hate you so proudly are advertising has made you an easy mark for the bad guys. You buy their rhetoric because it fuels your hate. And that hate has made you stupid. 

 

You said, without hesitation or irony, that you're willing to overlook a working alliance with ISIS - even while it blows up little girls in England - so long as it results in more dead Russians. 

 

That's shameful. And you should be embarrassed to hold such a myopic and utterly monstrous philosophy. 

 

I hope you find peace one day. I truly do. :beer:



#959 GoBills808

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Posted Yesterday, 04:47 PM

Name them all.

I'd start with Goldman, JPMorgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, Citi, and Barclays. Then you get into the Wells Fargos and HSBCs of the world but I think his original point was pretty valid.

 

I don't think it was poor legislation that perpetrated the mortgage bundling frauds that were going on at Lehman and elsewhere. Did government have a role to play? Yes. But was government responsible for the Credit Default Swap mess? Nope. That's on Wall Street.

I'd argue lax regulations (and by that I mean regulators either blatantly compromised or unable to keep up with the rapid evolution of the derivative market), combined with an incestuous relationship between Wall St. and the White House spanning decades. I could literally talk about this for days, as Foxx knows.



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Posted Today, 12:57 PM

https://www.bloomber...without-a-trial


ELI LAKE. Trump’s Allies, Convicted of High Crimes Without a Trial

Flynn has yet to be charged with a crime. If there is evidence that he betrayed his country, it has yet to be presented. None of the many news stories about Flynn’s contacts with Russians and Turks has accused him of being disloyal to his country. And yet a decorated general has already been tried and convicted in the press.

None of this would be happening without some very dirty business from the national security state. It’s a two-pronged campaign. First there are the whispers. Anonymous officials describe in detail elements of an ongoing investigation: intercepts of conversations between Russian officials about how they could influence Flynn during the transition; monitored phone calls about how Flynn had lied about his conversations with the Russian ambassador to his colleagues; how Flynn failed to disclose his payment from the Russian propaganda network on his official forms. This prong of the campaign is at least factual, but the facts don’t speak for themselves.

The second and more insidious element here is the innuendo. Yates never says Flynn was a spy for Russia. But her public remarks to Congress and the media appear designed to leave that impression. As she told Lizza, Flynn was “compromised by the Russians.” This sounds far more sinister than Flynn’s explanation when he left his post in February. Back then he said he had forgotten elements of his discussion with the Russian ambassador that covered a wide range of issues.

Yates’s innuendo is nothing compared to that dropped by former CIA director John Brennan.




Read the whole thing and remember: The Deep State does what it wills.