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#161 ndirish1978

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 02:18 PM

You really don't have a consistent winner til you get a QB. You should draft one every couple of years until you find one.



#162 Fixxxer

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 05:35 PM

I was watching some of Mahomes' vids on draft breakdown (great site btw) and this are my thoughts on him

 

When he steps up in the pocket, and he does that at a good rate, he's very accurate, he's like Tony Romo with a better arm, but when he hangs in the pocket and the bad habits begin, he's mix of Jay Cutler with a bad Johnny Manziel. 

 

I would not be opposed to the Bills drafting him but they need to be sure that this guy is a leader and a coachable hard worker. 

 

I still, think the best QB prospect of this draft is Mitch Trubisky (apparently the Jets love the guy) 



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Posted Yesterday, 07:14 AM

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IMO #TexasTech QB Patrick Mahomes is a cross between Stafford & Big Ben. Both are good quarterbacks as is Mahomes.

#164 dave mcbride

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Posted Yesterday, 08:08 AM

Honestly a QB is either good or not, very hard to be bad then get good. Even Alex Smith still isn't that good.
Good coaching goes a long way also even if the guy needs to start week 1.
You need to look at the games he lost, with good Defenses then you will see it. Doesn't mean anything at college level but it still does look good. Honestly I don't know who could be a good QB though. It is crazy how he can just make plays always looking down field is always a plus.


Have you ever looked at the scores of the games he lost? If not, I suggest doing so. He lived in a world where 51 points simply wasn't enough on many occasions.

#165 JohnC

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Posted Yesterday, 09:39 AM

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IMO #TexasTech QB Patrick Mahomes is a cross between Stafford & Big Ben. Both are good quarterbacks as is Mahomes.

The historical inclination for the Bills to do is to retain TT (which I am for) and then use their first pick on a DB. This organization seems to be imprisoned by its own timidity. The consensus within the organization and outside is that TT is not the long term solution at qb. In my view he is better than the average bridge qb, yet not good enough to be an elevating franchise qb.

 

Taking Mahomes with a first pick excites me. But deep down most of us know that is not going to happen because that is not how this sclerotic organization usually acts. My position is because we will have TT (assuming) that makes it even more of a propitious time to select a good qb prospect. 



#166 iinii

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Posted Yesterday, 10:54 AM

I wrote this in another post a bout Mahomes. This guy is the best QB in the draft bar none. He will be a pro bowler down the line. He is the closest thing to Aaron Rogers and Brett Farve there is.
He makes un believable throws that are Acurate from weird angels and with bad foot work. This guy is the one you want. NFL is not like college. You don't always get a lot of clean pockets and you don't always get to set up and throw on balance or get your feet set. I want a QB that can throw on the run or throw when his feet are not correct and people are in his face. This guy can do that in spades. Go watch him on YouTube you will see something extraordinary. Don't get fooled about the experts saying oh his foot work is bad, His back leg shakes, Blah, Blah, Blah. Watch Chargers Rivers, Watch GB Rogers these guys throw
at all angels, throw with in correct foot work and throw on the move across there body all the time. Who the Fu@k cares how they throw it. Does he complete the passes yes he does. Yes you will be required to do that in The NFL , good one's can pull it off. Well when I watch Mahomes that's what I see. So please just stop the nonsense. If we get this guy a great new Era in Bills football is about to begin.

I wouldn't go betting the farm any of this. For Mahomes the NFL is going to be similar to playing Alabama. A lot of people look real good until the Tide comes in. 



#167 Rise Up Lights

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Posted Yesterday, 11:23 AM

Absolutely.. Last time we drafted a QB in a down QB draft we got EJ who was the worst first choice in Bills history as it set the franchise back 4 years at least.

So what's this mean? Never trade down and draft a QB again? EJ and Mahomes couldn't be more different as prospects.



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Posted Yesterday, 11:25 AM

I wouldn't go betting the farm any of this. For Mahomes the NFL is going to be similar to playing Alabama. A lot of people look real good until the Tide comes in. 

 

Carson Wentz looked fine last year and he wasn't even in Division 1.



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Posted Yesterday, 02:19 PM

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IMO #TexasTech QB Patrick Mahomes is a cross between Stafford & Big Ben. Both are good quarterbacks as is Mahomes.

All the comparisons in the world for this kid. I watched footage and on different plays he reminds me of different great QB'S Rodgers, Wilson, Stafford, Favre & Carr but on others he looks lIke Manzeal. I would to take Mahomes in the 2nd rd.

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Posted Yesterday, 02:36 PM

Have you ever looked at the scores of the games he lost? If not, I suggest doing so. He lived in a world where 51 points simply wasn't enough on many occasions.

I like the idea of Mahomes if he's available in the second round. I don't like any of the first round QB's enough to take that much of a risk. However, the fact that he was in that many shoot outs is actually one thing that concerns me about him. No one in the Big 12 plays defense whatsoever. Playing QB in the Big 12 is more like being a point guard in basketball. They distribute the ball, and guys make plays from there. It really isn't fair to hold this against Mahomes but the recent history of Big 12 QB's as pros isn't very good. The Big 12 is about as far away from the pro style of football as one can get. I could easily make the argument that Wentz who wasn't even a D1 player was far better prepared coming out of college.

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Posted Yesterday, 03:05 PM

I like the idea of Mahomes if he's available in the second round. I don't like any of the first round QB's enough to take that much of a risk. However, the fact that he was in that many shoot outs is actually one thing that concerns me about him. No one in the Big 12 plays defense whatsoever. Playing QB in the Big 12 is more like being a point guard in basketball. They distribute the ball, and guys make plays from there. It really isn't fair to hold this against Mahomes but the recent history of Big 12 QB's as pros isn't very good. The Big 12 is about as far away from the pro style of football as one can get. I could easily make the argument that Wentz who wasn't even a D1 player was far better prepared coming out of college.

Carson Wentz was considered one of the most pro ready QB's to come out in recent years based on the system he ran in college.

 

If Mahomes ran a pro style offense we would never have a chance to draft him. I'm glad he played at Texas Tech because it will scare off people and make Mahomes cheaper to acquire.

 

Remember, Aaron Rodgers fell because teams were scared he was a system QB and that other Tedford QB's such as Akili Smith and Joey Harrington were NFL busts.