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#161 jms62

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 03:38 PM

Here's the best fit for the Bills: No QB in 2017.

Absolutely.. Last time we drafted a QB in a down QB draft we got EJ who was the worst first choice in Bills history as it set the franchise back 4 years at least.



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 04:06 PM

im not conviced its a bad draft

 

i just dont think there are day 1 starters



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 04:18 PM

im not conviced its a bad draft

 

i just dont think there are day 1 starters

 

Are they first round draft choices for the Bills given our obvious need at WR



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 04:24 PM

Absolutely.. Last time we drafted a QB in a down QB draft we got EJ who was the worst first choice in Bills history as it set the franchise back 4 years at least.


This is NOTHING like 2013.

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 04:27 PM

This is NOTHING like 2013.


I'm not saying you're wrong, but there were at least 3 guys (Smith, Nassib, and Manuel) with 1st round projections, IIRC. I see a group of prospects being over rated due to positional need.

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 04:27 PM

This is NOTHING like 2013.

 

LOL.. You know that because you have a crystal Ball. Next year is the QB class not this year but ok make a bold statement that can't be confirmed for years...



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 04:27 PM

This is NOTHING like 2013.


They want to die in battle with Tyrod Taylor. It has nothing to do with these qb's actual abilities.

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 04:36 PM

 
LOL.. You know that because you have a crystal Ball. Next year is the QB class not this year but ok make a bold statement that can't be confirmed for years...

I don't care whether you agree. I didn't really like any of the 2013 Quarterbacks. I like this year's potential 1st rounders more than I liked last years.

Even Mayock who has said today he isn't sure about taking any of these in the top 10 thinks there are first round Quarterbacks.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but there were at least 3 guys (Smith, Nassib, and Manuel) with 1st round projections, IIRC. I see a group of prospects being over rated due to positional need.


I totally disagree. I wasn't doing full evluations in 2013 so I can't say what grade I'd have given those 3 but I really didn't like Geno (one of the worst decision makes I have seen play Quarterback) or Nassib (crap mechanics, crap arm, inconsistent accuracy, mid round talent). EJ and Glennon were my top 2 in that class and I don't know that I was convinced on either.

Edited by GunnerBill, 08 February 2017 - 04:33 PM.


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Posted 08 February 2017 - 04:45 PM

Guys....lets not let our want of bringing back TT influence ranking of these qbs



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 04:47 PM

Guys....lets not let our want of bringing back TT influence ranking of these qbs


Agreed. This is not like the 2013 class. And only the vitriolic Tyrod fans think it is because anything that even alludes to the Bills moving on must be attacked at any cost. Frankly it's pathetic.

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 04:51 PM

Agreed. This is not like the 2013 class. And only the vitriolic Tyrod fans think it is because anything that even alludes to the Bills moving on must be attacked at any cost. Frankly it's pathetic.

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 04:54 PM

Agreed. This is not like the 2013 class. And only the vitriolic Tyrod fans think it is because anything that even alludes to the Bills moving on must be attacked at any cost. Frankly it's pathetic.

 

Agree 100% it is pathetic that most well respected draft pundits don't agree with you either but you twist it into those that disagree with you are vitriolic Tyrod fans..


Edited by jms62, 08 February 2017 - 04:56 PM.


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Posted 08 February 2017 - 04:58 PM

 
Agree 100% it is pathetic that most well respected draft pundits don't agree with you either but you twist it into those that disagree with you are vitriolic Tyrod fans..


Go on.... which ones? I asked Alpha the same question he came up with nothing. Who are these experts saying it is like 2013?

Matt Miller, Josh Norris, Greg Gabriel all say this class is better than the mid college season hysteria.

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 05:00 PM

 

Agree 100% it is pathetic that most well respected draft pundits don't agree with you either but you twist it into those that disagree with you are vitriolic Tyrod fans..

jms

 

i have not really seen anywhere that gunner was opposed to bringing back tt

 

there are actually some of us that want both



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 05:02 PM

I have said throughout the season I am 50/50 on Tyrod. I am okay with a decision to keep him and I am okay with them deciding to move on.

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 05:06 PM

Agreed. This is not like the 2013 class. And only the vitriolic Tyrod fans think it is because anything that even alludes to the Bills moving on must be attacked at any cost. Frankly it's pathetic.


It's QB mania. EJ and JP had the same fans.

#177 jms62

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 05:06 PM

jms

 

i have not really seen anywhere that gunner was opposed to bringing back tt

 

there are actually some of us that want both

 

He implied that I was attacking because I was a "vitriolic Tyrod fan". If there was a better option this year I am for it. I happen to agree with most pundits that say this just is not a good QB class and the next Good QB class is only a year away. Why be a buyer now when better product will be available next year?



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 05:06 PM

 
He implied that I was attacking because I was a "vitriolic Tyrod fan". If there was a better option this year I am for it. I happen to agree with most pundits that say this just is not a good QB class and the next Good QB class is only a year away. Why be a buyer now when better product will be available next year?

Which pundits? Name them.

I'm not saying 2018 won't be better. I haven't really evaluated those guys so far.

Edited by GunnerBill, 08 February 2017 - 05:07 PM.


#179 jms62

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 05:09 PM

Which pundits? Name them.

I'm not saying 2018 won't be better. I haven't really evaluated those guys so far.

 

Google and take your pick I am not interested in doing your research for you.



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 05:11 PM

 
Google and take your pick I am not interested in doing your research for you.


Lol you made the claim big boy.