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2013 qb search again

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#41 Thurman#1

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 01:28 AM

 

That does not change the fact that its still not a great class to self inflict desperation and make yourself go all in on a rookie high in the draft.  That is the point.  

 

We were 5th in the NFL scoring under TT this year...we are not desperate at QB unless we self inflict that desperation by not keeping Taylor.  Why not fix the D which is loaded with Elite prospects at the top of the draft and then worry about the QB position next year if TT or Cardale don't step up and cease the job for good.

 

 

 

 

1) Points is NOT a QB stat. It is a stat that is probably 75 - 80% from the whole offense and the rest from defense and STs. Trying to use it to big up Tyrod doesn't make sense. Our running game was terrific on offense. Our pass game wasn't.

 

2) I notice you left finance out of the discussion. And for good reason. 


However they finished 9th in points per drive and 6th in TDs per drive (including the week 17 abomination). (per Football Outsiders 2016 Offensive Drive Statistics)

I'd be curious where they ranked going into week 17, but I don't feel like digging into cached pages and such right now.

 

 

 

Must've had a lot of game-winning drives and 4th quarter comebacks then, right?

 

We scored a lot of points against bad teams and didn't score many when it counted.

 

Clearly the defense was very bad. Equally clearly, the offense was terrific when running and substandard when passing.


Edited by Thurman#1, 16 February 2017 - 01:29 AM.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 02:12 AM

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Hmm some of those #drives is off. Pro fotball reference has the Bills with 177 drives.

 

 

 

 

"The drive stats of our website also features drive stats compiled by Jim Armstrong. These stats are computed from NFL  Drive Charts and are not adjusted for strength of schedule or situation. Take-a-knee drives at the end of halves are discarded." - Football Outsiders



#43 NastyNateSoldiers

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 03:00 AM

Damn right it's 2013 all over again, especially since the following yr was a better yr to draft the QB position. I say the difference now should be even if u take a QB now if he doesn't pan out right away take one again next yr. Don't wait 4yrs to draft another QB.

The Bills have drafted only 6 QBS since 1995 that should tell u what our prb is right there.

Edited by NastyNateSoldiers, 16 February 2017 - 03:03 AM.


#44 GunnerBill

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 05:17 AM

 

Along with the defense I see Cap management as a problem.  A small number of players gobbling up a big portion of the cap.  This might necessitate cutting some high paid players and letting Gilmore walk.  If it was up to me my list would be releasing A. Williams (I think he should retire before something really bad happens), K. Williams (some contender might pick him up on a 1 or 2 year deal and the guy deserves a shot at the title), Clay (just overpaid), and Wood (Groy did a decent job at a much lower cap hit).   

 

And find another kicker to replace Carpenter as his efficiency looks to be on the slide.

 

Find a genuine number 2 receiver.  If Mike Williams is there at 10 then take him otherwise defense.

 

No point cutting Clay.  Loads of dead $$$s and no cap saving.  



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 06:23 AM

Is it me, or does the lead up to this year's draft have a remarkably similar feel to the situation at one Bills Drive in 2013?

 

We have a General Manager that is determined to find the Bills' "franchise quarterback" in a draft year where the conventional wisdom is that no qb is worthy of a 1st round pick.

 

Many mock drafts have the Bills reaching for one of the top three qbs of this draft with the first pick.  To me, this seems like the EJ Manuel decision all over again.

 

I am not sure if I can go through another failed qb experiment. 

 

I have supported Whaley so far because he has made some good moves.  My feeling is that you take the good with the bad.  My feelings are beginning to turn.  If he is foolish enough to turn loose TT without having a solid plan in place to replace him with veteran leadership, he should be gone, no questions asked!

"I am not sure if I can go through another failed qb experiment. " .   Well, you're are about to, so "time to choose":  do I invest in another 3 years of suck, or don't I?   McDermott is just Malarky, Williams, Jauron ("its hard to win in the NFL") redux.  

 

They were close, and they blew it up anyway.   Time to pay the price.   Remember the movie "Groundhog Day".   Yes indeed, its 2013 all over again, no QB, new low-end HC and staff.    Time to reach for 2rd round grade Watson at 10 and screw up the QB position for 3 more years.  

 

Should have moved the franchise to Toronto.   Would have made them that much easier to forget.  


Edited by 8and8-->NoMore, 16 February 2017 - 06:27 AM.


#46 ndirish1978

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 11:53 AM

 

"I am not sure if I can go through another failed qb experiment. " .   Well, you're are about to, so "time to choose":  do I invest in another 3 years of suck, or don't I?   McDermott is just Malarky, Williams, Jauron ("its hard to win in the NFL") redux.  

 

They were close, and they blew it up anyway.   Time to pay the price.   Remember the movie "Groundhog Day".   Yes indeed, its 2013 all over again, no QB, new low-end HC and staff.    Time to reach for 2rd round grade Watson at 10 and screw up the QB position for 3 more years.  

 

Should have moved the franchise to Toronto.   Would have made them that much easier to forget.  

 

 

Thank goodness for the block button, it will make your posts easier to forget