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#41 JohnC

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 02:50 PM

I'm pretty comfortable calling that a fact. Foles stinks. There isn't a person in the NFL that thinks Foles would be an upgrade. Being a better option and being an upgrade are two different things. There is certainly an argument that he's a better option. There isn't really an argument that he's a better player in 2017.

If he was brought in and the Bills didn't draft a qb with a high pick this year it would be a foolish, if not reckless move. I'm in the DC/MD market and there have been numerous stories that the Bills have decided to move on without TT. As you well know rumors are not facts but you know the cliche about smoke and fire. It's funny but most of the response to the rumor outside of the hometown is what is going on there? 

 

We respectfully disagree on the drafting a qb with a high round pick this year. If Whaley let's TT go and he doesn't select a serious qb prospect this year I'm going to join NYC Bills' raucous crowd of vilifying the GM that I have so supported in the past. Enough is enough! 



#42 Bill from NYC

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 03:03 PM

 

We respectfully disagree on the drafting a qb with a high round pick this year. If Whaley let's TT go and he doesn't select a serious qb prospect this year I'm going to join NYC Bills' raucous crowd of vilifying the GM that I have so supported in the past. Enough is enough! 

If it was up to me we would keep Tyrod AND draft a qb at #10.



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 03:11 PM

If you think that Foles will be an upgrade you are sorely, sorely mistaken. He is a bad quarterback. He had one good year and has been a bad player other than that. If we are viewing him as a cheap veteran option to bridge to the young guy, sure. If you think that the position will improve with him that's not going to happen.

 

The only veteran that could be an upgrade from TT is Romo (and he has his own issues). If the Bills are moving on it is to a young guy, not Foles. Foles will just be here in case the young guy isn't ready week 1. He makes sense as a veteran bridge.

Where did I say upgrade? I like his potential over what I have seen from him in the right system. The Rams were a dumpster fire when he was there. There is a reason why Reid grabbed him.



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 03:30 PM

Foles blows.


That's why he's perfect for us. Extend that drought to 18.

#45 Kirby Jackson

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 03:34 PM

Where did I say upgrade? I like his potential over what I have seen from him in the right system. The Rams were a dumpster fire when he was there. There is a reason why Reid grabbed him.

http://forums.twobil...tion/?p=4253171?

Edited by Kirby Jackson, 16 February 2017 - 03:52 PM.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 03:52 PM

If it was up to me we would keep Tyrod AND draft a qb at #10.

Bill, I agree with you. However, my priority is to take the plunge this year and draft a qb with our first pick, regardless how the TT issue is handled. I wouldn't be adverse to trading down. But if there is any doubt that we could lose our preferred prospect then I wouldn't risk it by moving down the board. Just freaking do it. When is enough of this hesitating nonsense going to stop!



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 04:00 PM

If it was up to me we would keep Tyrod AND draft a qb at #10.


This is kind of where I'm at too. I like Tyrod. I think his play is electrifying. But he is not going to be a kind of QB who drags his team to the Super Bowl. Maybe he can be an Alex Smith with the Chiefs but they keep flaming out.

Maybe if they trade onto the late first or very early second I am ok with a QB there.

#48 John from Hemet

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 05:03 PM

Real easy to say when it's not your money.

is it yours?



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 05:41 PM

Again, where were the words upgrade? I said I liked his potential.



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 05:47 PM

Again, where were the words upgrade? I said I liked his potential.

So "taking Foles potential over Tyrod" isn't assuming an upgrade? Why would you take it then? On a side note Foles is older than TT and has started more games than Tyrod. Why does he have "potential" but TT doesn't? They probably either both should, neither should or the guy with 7 less starts should.

Foles played 1 good year and has been a bad QB since.

Edited by Kirby Jackson, 16 February 2017 - 05:48 PM.


#51 HoF Watkins

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 09:23 PM

Either keep Tyrod, or go all in on draft day. This mucking about is useless. Foles would just be another 7-9 to 9-7 guy.



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 09:34 PM

If you think you're close absent a QB you bite the bullet and sign the glass-framed QB who has played at an elite level and not the middling never-was.



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 09:40 PM

If it was up to me we would keep Tyrod AND draft a qb at #10.

:thumbsup:


That's why he's perfect for us. Extend that drought to 18.

If they are dumping TT, might as well bring in this guy. at least they would be putting 11 on the field when the defense comes off. Who knows what McD thinks. I would take him over Romo, or should they pick up Romo and use Foles as the BU who becomes the starter week four?

 yippee


Edited by 3rdand12, 16 February 2017 - 09:41 PM.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 10:49 PM

Foles would be a solid back-up QB option, so I think I'd prefer him if we are keeping Taylor. Either way, I'd prefer Hoyer, but would not be disappointed. 

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 11:05 PM

Where did I say upgrade? I like his potential over what I have seen from him in the right system. The Rams were a dumpster fire when he was there. There is a reason why Reid grabbed him.

 

There inna reason why he let him go too--after a season.



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Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:49 AM

Foles blows.

 

I agree. The sad thing is the Bills having very little at the QB spot and he might sadly be worthy of a look.



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Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:59 AM

So "taking Foles potential over Tyrod" isn't assuming an upgrade? Why would you take it then? On a side note Foles is older than TT and has started more games than Tyrod. Why does he have "potential" but TT doesn't? They probably either both should, neither should or the guy with 7 less starts should.

Foles played 1 good year and has been a bad QB since.

In limited action Foles looked good again last year in a system similar to ours, for a coaching staff which included our new QB coach. Tyrod Taylor is not very good. He refuses to release the football multiple times every single game and regularly fails to even see wide open receivers. He is incapable of going through progressions quickly, and regularly delivering the ball on time. There is a chance Foles in the right system could outperform him.

Edited by 2018 Our Year For Sure, 17 February 2017 - 02:09 AM.


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 05:19 AM

If we're looking for a bridge guy, Foles would be one and for a salary that is appropriate for a bridge guy.

 

As for being a backup, no thanks. We need a backup who can mentor Cardale and the new guy we draft over the next couple of drafts. Foles isn't the smart, seen-everything type of grizzled vet you want. Hoyer, maybe. 



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Posted 17 February 2017 - 07:29 AM

Foles blows.

yeah, this move would fit the "next three years of suck" model.   sure, go get a first time, introvert head coach, a failed retread QB to start ...cut Shady to save a few bucks bc he "doesn't fit the new OCs one cut" system after setting rushing records with ALynn....  

 

yep, all the makings of suck are coming into view... 



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Posted 17 February 2017 - 09:01 AM

I hear you on drafting a QB. My problem is there is no QB in this class that's worthy of the number 10 pick. No doubt a QB will be taken before that because of the value of the QB position and the desperation of teams to find their franchise QB.

 

Kizer - just not impressed when I saw him play. Big arm very slow eyes and vision. No thanks.

 

Watson - When has this type of QB been very successful?  I want a pocket passer with great vision, quick release, and accuracy. I  don't see these necessary qualities in Watson. Good work ethic and good legs only goes so far...No thanks

 

Mahomes - Pretty raw and needs time to develop. Played against many porous defenses that made him look really good. Need to be more accurate, better field vision and decision making. Will need at least two years to develop and learn. Should be a late 2nd to 3rd round pick. Yes, to a second round pick.

 

Trubisky - Small sample size to look at. Kid seemed to panic when pressured. Played mostly in the shotgun. Has big upside but IMHO he is greatly overhyped. I can see why people are high on him. He will most likely be gone before 10. I feel like he should be taken late in the first round.

 

This QB class really doesn't excite me.


Edited by ice2145, 17 February 2017 - 09:02 AM.