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#41 BuffAlone

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 12:20 PM

Might we replace him with Zach Cunningham?
We seem to have more urgent first round needs. WR and CB/safety.

I've been telling people...Wlb is the most important player in a McD defense. I'm not sure if that translates to a Frazier D,but all signs point Wlb,Cb,S in the draft. Toss in Wr,and a little depth,and that's a wrap

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 12:23 PM

I've been telling people...Wlb is the most important player in a McD defense. I'm not sure if that translates to a Frazier D,but all signs point Wlb,Cb,S in the draft. Toss in Wr,and a little depth,and that's a wrap


That sounds about right. And the McDermott D will be the Frazier D. Still think they grab a QB in there somewhere , though.

#43 Dr. Who

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 12:33 PM

That sounds about right. And the McDermott D will be the Frazier D. Still think they grab a QB in there somewhere , though.

I like Watson or Mahomes if they can get a late first pick or use the second on qb.

If not, I'd take a flier on Chad Kelly if Jim vouches for the fella.



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 12:39 PM

He may come back..  Likely his agent overvauled hims and told him there was no way the Bills could afford him.  Or McDermott doesn't want a quitter back with the team.  



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 01:01 PM

He may come back..  Likely his agent overvauled hims and told him there was no way the Bills could afford him.  Or McDermott doesn't want a quitter back with the team.  

What's all the quitter talk about? Did Zach do some quitting I was unaware of?



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 01:11 PM

I would like to see Brown back with the Bills. Let the best LB's start and have good rotational players/depth



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 02:48 PM

What's all the quitter talk about? Did Zach do some quitting I was unaware of?

His production tailed off the second half of the season and some folks think he started playing soft and thinking about staying healthy for his next contract.

A lot of surmise.


Edited by Dr. Who, 13 March 2017 - 02:48 PM.


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 03:08 PM

Well he wasn't injured so something was going on? Maybe bring him back cheap on a 2 yr deal. Don't want to make the same mistake like London Fletcher.

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 03:21 PM

Nobody ever mentions this, I guess everybody forgot, but Rex Ryan's defense is known to create linebackers out of thin air. Just look at his teams over the years and they crank out linebackers from nowhere.

He's explained that openly before, the defensive linemen are supposed to tie up blockers and let the linebackers make the plays. That's one of the reasons Mario McPussypants became the cancer that he apparently is now permanently, because he didn't want his play to be setting up anybody else

I think the rest of the league has got wise to this and they don't overvalue linebackers in Rexys system. So it's entirely possible that brown comes back to us

Edited by Meathead, 13 March 2017 - 03:22 PM.


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 03:35 PM

I could see Brown getting 6-8 million per. He doesn't have the credentials that Hightower has.

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 03:59 PM

His production tailed off the second half of the season and some folks think he started playing soft and thinking about staying healthy for his next contract.

A lot of surmise.

I didn't really see a tail off. Couple monster games early on that skewed expectations maybe, and a couple of bad plays against Ajayi and others. But still finished second in the league in tackles.



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 05:10 PM

I've been telling people...Wlb is the most important player in a McD defense. I'm not sure if that translates to a Frazier D,but all signs point Wlb,Cb,S in the draft. Toss in Wr,and a little depth,and that's a wrap

Good points. and Frazier will run McD's D.


His production tailed off the second half of the season and some folks think he started playing soft and thinking about staying healthy for his next contract.

A lot of surmise.

I was wondering about this too. Hard to tell who was and wasn't laying down a little late in the season. Ryans had lost the Defense by then


I could see Brown getting 6-8 million per. He doesn't have the credentials that Hightower has.

that's much too much for him.

 

 

 IMO



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 11:52 PM

For what its worth Zack had a top 5-10 PFF rating through the initial 11-12 games but as RB's pile dup yardage against us he swooned big time in the last 4-5 games, I believe that's the tail off folks are referring too, which affected ratings in whatever metric you want to use for all our starting LB's and Shaq

 

The tail off was prominent enough that I was very surprised when he was named an alternative to the pro-bowl because lots of other ILB had better ratings

 

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 01:08 AM

 

 

 

I mean he made the pro-bowl, granted as an alternate. 

 

The pundits had me believing we could not afford the guy. Clearly we can with our cap space, and we let Klein go without apparently any interest. 

 

I wonder if we are waiting to see what happens with Kendricks, or have a 5-6 million/year offer out to Brown who is also waiting to see what happens. 

 

 

Fill me in on the details on this hooker. I am out the loop on our LB FA hunt. Whos Kendricks?



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 07:18 AM

For what its worth Zack had a top 5-10 PFF rating through the initial 11-12 games but as RB's pile dup yardage against us he swooned big time in the last 4-5 games, I believe that's the tail off folks are referring too, which affected ratings in whatever metric you want to use for all our starting LB's and Shaq

 

The tail off was prominent enough that I was very surprised when he was named an alternative to the pro-bowl because lots of other ILB had better ratings

 

jc 

interesting. good to know. love these boards for tidbits like this.



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 07:23 AM

 

 

Fill me in on the details on this hooker. I am out the loop on our LB FA hunt. Whos Kendricks?

 

Klein = Kuekleys backup from Carolina, went elsewhere

 

Kendricks = Lance Kendricks, TE from RAMS, our new TE coach was the rams OC, but he also signed elsewhere now. 



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 09:20 AM

Well he wasn't injured so something was going on? Maybe bring him back cheap on a 2 yr deal. Don't want to make the same mistake like London Fletcher.


Some players just want OUT. Teams are foolish to make them stay because they won't play with heart. ex LYNCH wanted OUT. Mario also wanted out.

Some players who ant more $$$ play harder, some just hold out. What type do you want on your team?

If Brown gets no offers then he has been schooled.

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 07:38 PM

Has Brown even had any visits that have been reported?

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 07:46 PM

Some players just want OUT. Teams are foolish to make them stay because they won't play with heart. ex LYNCH wanted OUT. Mario also wanted out.

Some players who ant more $$$ play harder, some just hold out. What type do you want on your team?

If Brown gets no offers then he has been schooled.

I think Lynch wanted out because he knew the team wasn't going anywhere.  The damn guy's retired and they still haven't gone anywhere.



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 07:47 PM

Klein = Kuekleys backup from Carolina, went elsewhere
 
Kendricks = Lance Kendricks, TE from RAMS, our new TE coach was the rams OC, but he also signed elsewhere now.

i think he is talking about kendricks the lb from philly, i think they are trying to trade him before they probably cut him