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#41 FireChan

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 11:57 AM

 

His teammates (a.k.a. - people who actually know him) seem to think so.

Who are "most people" and how hard do they work?



#42 RyanC883

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 12:00 PM

He is a terrible QB.   He couldn't even play in an offense (Chip Kelly) that is basically designed for a guy like him.  Chip is an awful coach, but there are better backup QB's available.   Plus, TT has one bad game and then people are going to be "put Kap in."   No thanks.  Don't need THAT distraction.  (in addition to the other HUGE one this no-QB talent jerk brings).  

 

Kap should go the Pryor route and try another position.  


Edited by RyanC883, 19 March 2017 - 12:01 PM.


#43 Gugny

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 12:05 PM

Who are "most people" and how hard do they work?

 

You don't know them.  But they work very, very hard.  Believe me.  



#44 Chuck Wagon

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 12:11 PM

He is a terrible QB.   He couldn't even play in an offense (Chip Kelly) that is basically designed for a guy like him.  Chip is an awful coach, but there are better backup QB's available.   Plus, TT has one bad game and then people are going to be "put Kap in."   No thanks.  Don't need THAT distraction.  (in addition to the other HUGE one this no-QB talent jerk brings).  

 

Kap should go the Pryor route and try another position.  

 

 

He couldn't?  16 TDs - 4 picks, his efficiency numbers were pretty similar to a few years ago when he was surrounded by MUCH more talent and was the toast of the league, the only really concerning thing was 7 fumbles.  He certainly needs to bulk back up, but he wasn't terrible last year, especially considering what was around him.


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#45 TheBillsOrDie

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 12:19 PM

Screw him. The Bills sign him and I am done.

While your at it you could boycott Hawaii as well..



#46 jeffismagic

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 12:28 PM

Kaepernick        2016    YPA 6.8   QB Rating  90.2          12 Games, 16 TD's

 

Tyrod Taylor      2016    YPA 6.9   QB Rating  89.7          15 Games  17 TD's



#47 Brianmoorman4jesus

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 12:30 PM

Except that he stinks. He was figured out by the league and is not good enough. Get a backup that can come in and not lose you the game for a change. Plenty of professional accurate passers that we could bring in.

#48 xsoldier54

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 12:39 PM

http://www.cleveland...art_river_index

 

  • Super Bowl experience
  • great wheels
  • still in his prime

 

Politics aside the guy can still play and yes I was at the 49ers game last year. This would be a no risk acquisition with all upside and I would support it.

Absolutely not.  Not only is he an !@#$, he just isn't as good as he thinks he is.



#49 87168

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 12:42 PM

No politics NOT aside.  He is a PR disaster and I know A LOT of guys who would be done with this team with him on it.  F Him

 

nah, he's a pr nightmare for bigots. funny, silent protest equals hatred for america, and freedom, but rapists, abusers and drug addicts = SIGN 'EM, please, go make love to your confederate flag.

 

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#50 klos63

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 12:43 PM

he can't gain the weight on the diet he is on. It won't happen.

to say you can only gain weight by eating meat is absurd. There are many exceptional vegan athletes.



#51 OldTimeAFLGuy

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 12:48 PM

He works harder than most people? Oh.

..LOL...and what does that get you?.....who outworked Tebow or spent megabucks on every conceivable type of personal trainer?.....

 

 


Edited by OldTimeAFLGuy, 19 March 2017 - 01:22 PM.


#52 BillsFan4

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 01:20 PM

America was (partially) founded on protest. I don't get how you can hate a guy for peacefully protesting...

It's one of our rights as American citizens. It's part of what makes this country so great. Freedom of speech is a constitutional right. I will never forget what a veteran friend once said - freedom of speech is one of the things he fought for, so someone expressing their constitutional right is not disrespecting him at all. It's honoring what he fought to preserve.

Anyway...
He would not be my first choice, but I'd take Kaepernick as a cheap veteran backup QB. I'd only be interested if he came cheap enough, though. He plays a similar style to TT, so the offense could pretty much stay the same if Tyrod happened to miss any games, and I don't trust Cardale in the backup spot yet.
I think the Bills could use a veteran backup QB (not necessarily Kaep). I think a good veteran QB could do Tyrod and Cardale some good. Not really sure Kaepernick is the right guy for that, though. I want an experienced, team first type guy who would be willing to help mentor Tyrod and Cardale.

#53 John from Hemet

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 01:22 PM

Putting aside all the other stuff......TT and Kaep also work together in the offseason so there is that



#54 Boyst62

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 01:43 PM

 

You don't know them.  But they work very, very hard.  Believe me, because i don't know them, either..  

ftfy

 

to say you can only gain weight by eating meat is absurd. There are many exceptional vegan athletes.

it is not absurd.  nor did i say he had to eat meat.  but, excellent misunderstanding and testimony of lack of a reading ability.  *high five*


While you're at it you could boycott Hawaii as well..

while he is boycotting hawaii, could you please pick up a book on grammar, you're going to be needing it.  your lacking in the grammar department is making me miss the days of yore when posters could articulate correctly without such irony.  *high five*

 

ps, hawaii sucks.


Edited by Boyst62, 19 March 2017 - 01:43 PM.


#55 KollegeStudnet

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 01:44 PM

One of my favorite quotes was from a lifelong 9ers fan when texting him in 2015 about what happened to his team?

"Colin became too cocky, never learned from his mistakes. Defenses figured him out. You get Colin frustrated early, game over. He became arrogant when coaches tried to show him what he was doing wrong in games. He didn't care. Still thinking he knew better."

#56 Boyst62

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 01:46 PM

 

nah, he's a pr nightmare for bigots. funny, silent protest equals hatred for america, and freedom, but rapists, abusers and drug addicts = SIGN 'EM, please, go make love to your confederate flag.

 

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this is not what the thread is about.  why is reading comprehension so hard for so many?  the only one proving to be a bigot here is you and the folks who quickly label all those they wish to not accept as intolerant.  your bigotry and ignorance are not to be shared in such a poor fashion on this site, as this is about football.  please take it to ppp where there is a topic right there at the top for you to bloviate in...



#57 Maury Ballstein

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 01:48 PM

Kaepernick breaks off an 80 yard TD run and doesn't pant or hit the oxygen mask

He obviously works pretty hard to be in such elite shape.

I don't love him but he's just as good as our qb.

#58 Boyst62

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 01:58 PM

Kaepernick breaks off an 80 yard TD run and doesn't pant or hit the oxygen mask

He obviously works pretty hard to be in such elite shape.

I don't love him but he's just as good as our qb.

he's not in jon daly shape, but he tries hard.

 

being as good as tyrod taylor isn't all that difficult because he is an elite athlete who can play qb.  qb for qb play, taylor is better.  athletically, kaepernick maybe better.  but as john c points out there is no much of a reason to want to go with kaepernick as a prosect going forward, his career is stagnant and he won't likely return to above average talent.



#59 uticaclub

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 02:01 PM

to say you can only gain weight by eating meat is absurd. There are many exceptional vegan athletes.


Name 3. Arian Foster fell apart when he went vegan

#60 Direhard Fan

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 02:02 PM

He is a distraction period.  Wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole.  McD doesn't need or deserve that kind of additude in the locker room.