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#61 The Jokeman

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 02:03 PM

Trubisky is the most pro-ready QB due to the system he played in. Mahomes has the arm & higher ceiling which also comes along with higher risk. IMHO Mahomes is worth it.
Go Bills!!!!!

Mahomes isn't worth the risk at pick 10, maybe with our 2nd rounder but to me the best low cost risk is Nathan Peterman in Round 3 as he fits the typical WCO type QB. Not a great arm but is athletic enough and knows how to scan the field and throw receivers open. He might not play as a rookie but think worth investing time in.

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#62 jeffismagic



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Posted 21 March 2017 - 02:06 PM

Posted this before but will do so again.


Derek Carr Scouting Report:


Arm strength and accuracy

Carr has the best arm talent of any quarterback in this 2014 NFL Draft. That may seem like a strong statement, but he proved it time and time again throughout the last two seasons. Even when his mechanics fail him, Carr can put the ball in any spot on the field with velocity, timing and accuracy. Additionally, Carr has exceptional touch and accuracy on his deep passes.

Comparing Carr to Matthew Stafford or Jay Cutler is not a stretch in this department. Regardless of his arm slot, footwork or the spot on the field he's throwing to, Carr can put the appropriate velocity on the ball. He's also an accurate passer in most areas of the field. Think about the throws that are important for an NFL quarterback to make: vertical routes, throws to the sidelines and throws into tight windows.

There are times when Carr's accuracy fails him, but we'll touch on that later.

Fresno State's offense called for vertical passes and screens. There wasn't a ton of in-between. Carr also spent most of the time lined up in the shotgun formation. Reading defenses while dropping back is a bit of a different process. That learning curve shouldn't be steep for Carr, though, based on the habits he's shown in college.

Unfortunately, it's tough to get enough of a feel for how Carr reads defenses because of his offense. He was asked to make relatively simple reads that won't necessarily translate to the NFL.


And here's where we start getting into some of the negatives to Carr's game. His mechanics, particularly in his lower body, are inconsistent at best. He often throws off of his back foot and doesn't transfer his weight properly when throwing the ball. He also lets his throwing mechanics be affected by pressure in the pocket, whether it's rushing his throw and not paying attention to his arm slot or not taking the time to focus on proper lower body mechanics.


Sounds like someone in the 2017 draft..

#63 thunderingsquid


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Posted 21 March 2017 - 02:22 PM

Want - Lattimore
Don't Want - Trubisky Fournette or Cook
Dark horse - Mahomes
Think - Lattimore

#64 GunnerBill


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Posted 21 March 2017 - 02:43 PM

Carr's footwork and Mahomes' footwork issues are nothing alike. Absolutely nothing.

#65 Dr. Who

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 02:45 PM

Want - Lattimore
Don't Want - Trubisky Fournette or Cook
Dark horse - Mahomes
Think - Lattimore

I'd be really surprised if Lattimore is available at #10.

#66 Mountain Man

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 04:31 PM

Want : Davis
Don't want : Trubisky
Dark Horse : Baker
Expect : Williams

#67 Antonio



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Posted Yesterday, 10:12 AM

Want - Hooker
Don't Want - Peppers unless they trade down to the mid 20´s
Dark Horse - OJ Howard
Think - Foster / Davis / Williams depending on who is available.

#68 poblano


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Posted Yesterday, 10:33 AM

Want:Solomon Thomas
Don't: a trade up, or a WR because that could mean the last year of Sammy as a bill
dark horse: Hassan Reedick
think: DB


#69 stuvian


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Posted Yesterday, 06:48 PM

Want - Mahomes


Don't Want - John Ross


Dark Horse - Jonathan Allen


Think - Hooker

#70 WickedGame


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Posted Yesterday, 07:14 PM

Good thread idea.

Want: Jamal Adams/Corey Davis
Don't want: Jabrill Peppers
Dark horse: Quincy Wilson
Think: Jabrill Peppers

My super secret prediction: The Bills are working a scheme to get Reuben Foster to fall into the second round, similar to the way they got Cordy Glenn to fall into the second round when he had first round grades.

#71 Steve Billieve

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Posted Yesterday, 08:08 PM

trade down bpa

oj howard or mike williams

cam robinson


#72 jethro_tull



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Posted Today, 12:18 PM

cool topic.  


want:          OJ Howard

don't want: DeShaun Watson

surprise:    DeShaun Watson

think:         Corey Davis

#73 Bill_with_it


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Posted Today, 12:24 PM

Want: williams
Dont want: any cb or rb
Dark horse: Watson
Think: any cb or rb if whaley is still in charge