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#1 Tiberius

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Posted 01 April 2017 - 10:10 AM

Tragic display of a gangster regime that is consolidating power and crushing democracy. So terrible to see this trend of wealth crazy strong men taking power like in Russia. Has a 1930's feel to it


https://www.nytimes....eft-region&_r=0

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Posted 01 April 2017 - 11:28 AM

Tragic display of a gangster regime that is consolidating power and crushing democracy. So terrible to see this trend of wealth crazy strong men taking power like in Russia. Has a 1930's feel to it


https://www.nytimes....eft-region&_r=0

No sympathy here. Self inflicted by believing in the fantasy of a socialist utiopia. Morons.  That's what you get when you elect a loser like Hugo Chavez. That's what we can have here to! Just have someone like Barry for another 8 years and we will be well on our way. We dodged a bullet in November by not electing that Chairman Mao shrew. We still have enough decent people here to fend off the left.



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Posted 01 April 2017 - 02:21 PM

Tragic display of a gangster regime that is consolidating power and crushing democracy. So terrible to see this trend of wealth crazy strong men taking power like in Russia. Has a 1930's feel to it


https://www.nytimes....eft-region&_r=0

Sounds like you are describing the Obama regime.



#4 B-Man

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Posted 01 April 2017 - 03:08 PM

11 paragraphs in the NYT article...............

 

The word 'socialism' does not appear.

 

 

 

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Posted 01 April 2017 - 04:01 PM

No sympathy here. Self inflicted by believing in the fantasy of a socialist utiopia. Morons.  That's what you get when you elect a loser like Hugo Chavez. That's what we can have here to! Just have someone like Barry for another 8 years and we will be well on our way. We dodged a bullet in November by not electing that Chairman Mao shrew. We still have enough decent people here to fend off the left.


Sounds a lot like the Trump phenomenon. America will be great again if you elect and ignorant greed ball who can't tell the truth from a lie. All those Trump voters that he was going to take away there health care and shower tax cuts on the wealthy. Biggest employer in West Virginia is health care and Trump seriously tried to knee cap them while promising to dirty their water and air to boot!

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Posted 01 April 2017 - 04:54 PM

Sounds a lot like the Trump phenomenon. America will be great again if you elect and ignorant greed ball who can't tell the truth from a lie. All those Trump voters that he was going to take away there health care and shower tax cuts on the wealthy. Biggest employer in West Virginia is health care and Trump seriously tried to knee cap them while promising to dirty their water and air to boot!

I'm saving this so that we can compare it to the inevitable perfect grammar and spelling of the next time you "author" a five paragraph post. 



#7 KD in CA

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Posted 01 April 2017 - 07:58 PM

Welcome to the party, pal.  Only ten years late to the obvious for gatorman and the NY Times.   <_<



#8 richstadiumowner

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Posted 01 April 2017 - 10:03 PM

lol

Too bad there wasn't any examples in history of what socialism does to countries that the Venezuelans could have googled...

 

The good news is the useful idiots are the first ones murdered.

Getting the government they voted for, good and hard.


Edited by richstadiumowner, 01 April 2017 - 10:08 PM.


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Posted 02 April 2017 - 03:22 AM

socialism isnt the problem. this country has always been socialist of a sort and has been the most successful country in human history

 

the problem is what it always is when it comes to these things: human failings. the quest for total control always corrupts any form of government


ppl can come in with the best of intentions, but if they are unchecked they will eventually start rigging the system in their favor. left unabated you end up with dictatorships



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Posted 02 April 2017 - 07:24 AM

Sounds a lot like the Trump phenomenon. America will be great again if you elect and ignorant greed ball who can't tell the truth from a lie. All those Trump voters that he was going to take away there health care and shower tax cuts on the wealthy. Biggest employer in West Virginia is health care and Trump seriously tried to knee cap them while promising to dirty their water and air to boot!


Your vitriol is strong. Do you have high blood pressure too?

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Posted 02 April 2017 - 09:47 AM

Social security, Medicare, Medicaid, Pell Grants, universal healthcare, school lunch programs, Welfare, and Foster Care are all social programs (socialism). There are hundreds of other programs too. Some are redundant, and could have the fat trimmed, especially in regards to disability, welfare, section 8 and food stamps. These programs get taken advantage of, but offer tremendous benefit to people who need it.

Venezuela is a tiny, war ravaged and corrupt nation. Is that the best example of a socialist country? Look to Norway, Sweden, Canada, Denmark, Netherlands, Finland, New Zealand and Belgium for better examples. No government is perfect and taxes are usually higher. I'm just sick of the rich and elite being the only ones who are truly prospering in Capitalistic countries like America.

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#12 richstadiumowner

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Posted 02 April 2017 - 09:57 AM

Name all the dictators that are socialist and then name the dictators that wanted to reduce the size of government.

Here's a hint, it goes, "All of them, None of them."

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100 million dead people since the 30's isn't enough for Leftards.

They're too stupid.

 

 

How socialism ruined my country.

 

I know two people on my block from Vietnam with escape stories that would make you cry.

My closest Vietnam neighbor was the only survivor on his boat of 30 that wasn't machine gunned in the water.

 

Socialists are evil f-ing retards hoping they get the machine gunning job.


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Posted 02 April 2017 - 10:02 AM

If you want to blame those atrocities on socialism and not the dictators who were ruling at the time, then I have no use having a conversation with you. You can't be that ignorant, can you? Nazis and millions dead all because of socialism! What a joke. I pointed to numerous current examples, and you point to Venezuela and dictators. Nice.

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Posted 02 April 2017 - 10:19 AM

If you want to blame those atrocities on socialism and not the dictators who were ruling at the time, then I have no use having a conversation with you. You can't be that ignorant, can you? Nazis and millions dead all because of socialism! What a joke. I pointed to numerous current examples, and you point to Venezuela and dictators. Nice.

 

 

Only socialists are stupid or evil enough to make government so big it can give you everything and take everything.


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Posted 02 April 2017 - 10:29 AM

Only socialists are stupid or evil enough to make government so big it can give you everything and take everything.


Did Bernie Sanders sleep with your old lady or something? Modern Socialism is not like you are describing but that's okay. We are already somewhat socialist with all the social programs we have. I want to take away your social security when you turn 65 and see how you are feeling about government then. The good old days of limited government and no social programs are over, adapt or become extinct.

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Posted 02 April 2017 - 10:37 AM

Did Bernie Sanders sleep with your old lady or something? Modern Socialism is not like you are describing but that's okay. We are already somewhat socialist with all the social programs we have. I want to take away your social security when you turn 65 and see how you are feeling about government then. The good old days of limited government and no social programs are over, adapt or become extinct.

 

Socialists even call it "progress" and "progressivism" towards bulldozers and death squads but you're too stupid to crack a history book.

Talk to anybody that's ever been forced to escape a "socialist" utopia.


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Posted 02 April 2017 - 10:51 AM

 
Socialists even call it "progress" and "progressivism" towards bulldozers and death squads but you're too stupid to crack a history book.
Talk to anybody that's ever been forced to escape a "socialist" utopia.

Death squads? The last time I traveled to Europe I didn't see any of those. Our taxes should cover everything like quality education, infrastructure and healthcare. Socialism means everyone is supposedly equal, even though the rich and shameless will always be just that. Individuality is discouraged, which I don't like. And taxes are higher. Bulldozers and death squads? You sound like Alex Jones.

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Posted 02 April 2017 - 12:08 PM

If you want to blame those atrocities on socialism and not the dictators who were ruling at the time, then I have no use having a conversation with you. You can't be that ignorant, can you? Nazis and millions dead all because of socialism! What a joke. I pointed to numerous current examples, and you point to Venezuela and dictators. Nice.

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Posted 02 April 2017 - 12:26 PM


If you want to blame those atrocities on socialism and not the dictators who were ruling at the time, then I have no use having a conversation with you. You can't be that ignorant, can you? Nazis and millions dead all because of socialism! What a joke. I pointed to numerous current examples, and you point to Venezuela and dictators. Nice.

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For the love of god, categorizing all socialists as the same because of some tyrannical dictators in the past is ridiculous.

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Posted 02 April 2017 - 12:37 PM

Death squads? The last time I traveled to Europe I didn't see any of those. 

 

 

 

 

Death squads? The last time I traveled to Europe I didn't see any of those. Our taxes should cover everything like quality education, infrastructure and healthcare. Socialism means everyone is supposedly equal, even though the rich and shameless will always be just that. Individuality is discouraged, which I don't like. And taxes are higher. Bulldozers and death squads? You sound like Alex Jones.

 

"should, "supposedly" 

You sound pathologically nuts and like you've never been to Europe.

 

 

"Each socialist regime has collapsed into dictatorship and begun killing people on a huge scale." The Black Book of Communism, a set of academic essays on mass killings under Communist regimes, details "'crimes, terror, and repression' from Russia in 1917 to Afghanistan in 1989".


Edited by richstadiumowner, 02 April 2017 - 12:38 PM.