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#1 YoloinOhio

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 07:03 PM

I believe the Bills will draft a CB next week, but unless Lattimore falls in their laps at 10 I think they may focus on a slot CB in the mid-rounds, and focus on elevating Kevon Seymour to starting outside corner role opposite Darby. Josh Norman was also a 6th round pick before he emerged as a top CB under McDermott. I thought Seymour took some lumps as most rookie corners do this past season, Rex's scheme hung them out to dry a lot and I think he did show some good technique as well. This graphic is interesting (h/t @BUFFAL0SOLDI3R)

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 07:11 PM

Well this is a refreshing thread. Very interested to see how he does this year



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Posted 19 April 2017 - 07:21 PM

I liked him once we drafted him, thought in the 6th round learning from the likes of Darby, Gilmore, Graham, and Robey would help him tremendously . Didn't realize how slow Norman is :lol:



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Posted 19 April 2017 - 08:16 PM

Not sure how much it matters but Norman is also 20 pounds heavier.

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 08:22 PM

i can see where there could be similarities.  but i also do not know if i see the similarities.

 

not to mention, josh norman was not as good as they say.  he was benched a lot for poor play in mcd's system.  he had very poor games.  and only when they had good dl production the one year was norman able to do more than his average performance.

 

i watched norman a lot during that year confused why people said he was so amazing.  he was good.  that's it.  but he's not been the same since and was never the hype they said.



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Posted 19 April 2017 - 08:31 PM

Great thread
I like Seymour a lot. Idk I felt surprisingly comfy and hopeful watching him last season. Type of guy you can develop to average-above average and idk sign a super team friendly deal. We did fix his eyes.

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 08:32 PM

i can see where there could be similarities.  but i also do not know if i see the similarities.

 

not to mention, josh norman was not as good as they say.  he was benched a lot for poor play in mcd's system.  he had very poor games.  and only when they had good dl production the one year was norman able to do more than his average performance.

 

i watched norman a lot during that year confused why people said he was so amazing.  he was good.  that's it.  but he's not been the same since and was never the hype they said.

These are the reasons Carolina let him walk...

CB is still a big need no matter what Seymour can bring.



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Posted 19 April 2017 - 08:34 PM

Not sure how much it matters but Norman is also 20 pounds heavier.

Seymour may be bigger now after a full year of NFL s&C, I honestly don't know. Those were combine weights.

McD's focus is DL as Boyst said, which can appear to elevate the CBs (similar to Schwartz scheme)

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 08:35 PM

I think everyone may be overlooking this guy. He has a lot of talent and could be a really good player for us this year. Good call on the post.



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Posted 19 April 2017 - 08:44 PM

I didn't realize he was that fast.

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 08:46 PM

Seymour may be bigger now after a full year of NFL s&C, I honestly don't know. Those were combine weights.

McD's focus is DL as Boyst said, which can appear to elevate the CBs (similar to Schwartz scheme)

But it was a year with the Bills' S&C coaches, so he's more injury prone now.



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Posted 19 April 2017 - 08:47 PM

But it was a year with the Bills' S&C coaches, so he's more injury prone now.

obviously but don't forget they are the ones who figured out he needed corrective lenses :lol:

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 08:49 PM

I didn't realize he was that fast.

4.39 is not really that fast.  it's essentially 4.4
under 4.3 is fast

under 4.2 is very fast

 

4.4-4.5 is pretty good

4.6 is pedestrian in the nfl.

4.7 or above, get out of here.  you're a dt or ol.



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Posted 19 April 2017 - 08:56 PM

I didn't realize he was that fast.

yep. Gilmore ran a 4.4 (at 4 more lbs)

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 08:57 PM

I don't watch much college football these days, but do see a lot of USC football. I think Seymour has a much higher ceiling than most 6th round picks, I was glad they drafted him. This defense could be great for what he does best, and I hope he takes advantage of the opportunity in front of him. 



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Posted 19 April 2017 - 08:59 PM

I don't watch much college football these days, but do see a lot of USC football. I think Seymour has a much higher ceiling than most 6th round picks, I was glad they drafted him. This defense could be great for what he does best, and I hope he takes advantage of the opportunity in front of him. 

i thought he looked good last year, many will remember the TD he got burned by Amari Cooper, but I thought he recovered from that and played well for a rookie, I think Rex's scheme is very tough too for a rookie corner.

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 09:45 PM

Interview with Seymour from a couple weeks ago (Tim Graham/audio link)
http://buffalonews.c...untary-workout/

Edited by YoloinOhio, 19 April 2017 - 09:46 PM.


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Posted 19 April 2017 - 09:55 PM

yep. Gilmore ran a 4.4 (at 4 more lbs)


Both good sized guys, so that's a good time. Nice combo of size and speed. Hopefully zone makes it easier for him. How much zone at USC, and how did that work for him? We still need help, obviously.

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 10:01 PM

Hasn't been mentioned yet, so I'll do my BBMB duty.

Whaley sucks. He should be fired. We're just spinning the tires. Gilmore gone. Now gillislee is gone. We can't replace those players. According to scientific data I read on the interweb, Whaley was proven to be the worst GM in the history of football. Pegulas needs to sell the team so the new owner will fire him.

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 10:13 PM

Both good sized guys, so that's a good time. Nice combo of size and speed. Hopefully zone makes it easier for him. How much zone at USC, and how did that work for him? We still need help, obviously.

i need a Pac 10 follower to chime in as I'm more useful on Big 10. I will try to look it up though.

Seymour mainly played in zone coverage in USC's defense, but also has experience playing off-man and press coverage. In zone, Seymour has a good rapport with his teammates, follows players through his area, and is smart about passing them off to the next player in the right spot. Seymour has quick footwork and good long speed down the sideline, which are traits that come in handy for him, because he often finds himself needing to recover from bad positioning.


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Edited by YoloinOhio, 19 April 2017 - 10:08 PM.