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#21 Adam

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 06:14 PM

DLP's are nice but you have to replace the bulb every year.  At around $200 to $300 a pop.  That's like buying a regular tv every year.  I'd like to make a purchase in the next few years but it is very confusing.

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Bulbs should last 3-4 years

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 09:15 PM

Bulbs should last 3-4 years

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I went with a Mitsubishi 62" DLP and the picture is the best! You feed this puppy HD and it's breathtaking! Also, if you calibrate on these things the lower contrast/brightness means longer bulb life. The guys at Tweeter told me I could get 4-5 years before a bulb replacement.

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Posted 24 May 2005 - 08:40 AM

Well, I'm glad to hear they last 3 to 4 years. Maybe, I was thinking of the older tech tv's. That will help make my decision. I've seen the DLP's and they do look awesome.

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Posted 21 July 2005 - 03:29 PM

Well, I'm glad to hear they last 3 to 4 years.  Maybe, I was thinking of the older tech tv's.  That will help make my decision.  I've seen the DLP's and they do look awesome.

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The best way to purchase a micro-display is simple, head over to AVSForums as Dan Gross advised and read until you're sick of reading. Take that knowledge out on the town and view each of those that have come to interest you. In the final analysis, it's still your eyes that have to be pleased.

As a rough guide, DLP's have a tendency to display clay faces and maybe 5% of people will have problem with what's known as "rainbow effect". LCD rear projection seems to suffer most from weak black levels. Both have the infamous bulb issues.

With Plasma prices failing, they have become more attractive, and they are the top sellers overall. Burn-in isn't a big issue anymore (although it's still not recommended to use them for PC displays or gaming).

I've seen some gorgeous LCD's from Sharp and a new Samsung 40" panel (with excellent refresh rate - 8ms - to finally put the lag issue largely to rest). But these are generally considerably more $$$, but discount displays are helping to get the overall pricing down a bit. Sadly, black levels continue to be a weak link. SDE (screen door effect) is another issue to some.

This is an extrodinary time with so many display types available. One can only image which will ultimately win out, or even if the ultimate Tube replacement technology is yet known.

For now, enjoy whatever you can afford.

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Posted 21 July 2005 - 03:53 PM

Bulbs should last 3-4 years

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Well, mine lasted 6 months... :P

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Posted 21 July 2005 - 05:49 PM

Well, mine lasted 6 months...  :P

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Sure hope you bought the extended warentee

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Posted 21 July 2005 - 06:25 PM

Well, mine lasted 6 months...  :P

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Leaving it turned on 24x7? That'd do it... (4320 hours in 6 months).

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Posted 21 July 2005 - 08:19 PM

Sure hope you bought the extended warentee

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LG replaced it under warranty, but now I am scared to death of this thing. The bulds are $300 for my set.

I actually plan on calling LG to demand an extended warranty on the bulb (I'll gladly pay the $300 for a 5 year warranty).

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Posted 26 July 2005 - 12:16 PM

LG replaced it under warranty, but now I am scared to death of this thing.  The bulds are $300 for my set.

I actually plan on calling LG to demand an extended warranty on the bulb (I'll gladly pay the $300 for a 5 year warranty).

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Was this the one you got from the Golf outing or did you get it new? If it was used prior, what were the conditions of use (it a tent heavy moisture, heavy usage during initial first 100 hours) that may have an effect on the long term of the bulb. I just got a 50 inch DLP from Samsung, and so far I'm loving it!!!

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Posted 05 August 2005 - 02:44 PM

Does DLP refer to a control mechanism to provide analogue (continuous spectra) light onto a phosphor screen? So will it not give the edge harshness of a digital display? Just asking questions...

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Posted 06 August 2005 - 05:29 PM

Does DLP refer to a control mechanism to provide analogue (continuous spectra) light onto a phosphor screen? So will it not give the edge harshness of a digital display? Just asking questions...

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No. DLP = Digital Light Processing. Basically there's a light that shoots off of tiny microscopic mirrors. Here's a decent overview:

http://www.dlp.com/d...gy_overview.asp

The only potential problem with DLP is that some people see "rainbows" when they watch.

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Posted 07 August 2005 - 01:14 PM

As someone who has absolutely no clue whatsoever, what about using a TV card through the computer and a presentation type projector? Or is that what everyone was talking about earlier? Could make for some pretty interesting gaming experience too. I use that stuff (including video) in briefings a lot, and the resolution seems fine.

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Posted 07 August 2005 - 06:11 PM

As someone who has absolutely no clue whatsoever, what about using a TV card through the computer and a presentation type projector? Or is that what everyone was talking about earlier? Could make for some pretty interesting gaming experience too. I use that stuff (including video) in briefings a lot, and the resolution seems fine.

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That's called an HTPC --- Home Theater PC. Check out AVSForum.com - there's a whole forum dedicated to just that, and it does work fine (although not quite as easy as just hooking up a DVD player)
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Posted 16 August 2005 - 09:26 AM

Was this the one you got from the Golf outing or did you get it new? If it was used prior, what were the conditions of use (it a tent heavy moisture, heavy usage during initial first 100 hours) that may have an effect on the long term of the bulb. I just got a 50 inch DLP from Samsung, and so far I'm loving it!!!

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My buddy just bought a refurbed Samsung 61 inch HLN DLP. Came in original box with all original stuff. Someplace in Northern VA on the web. Paid 1200 for it , with a two year all inclusive guarantee. If considering going the DLP route, may be something to look into too. Granted, it is a generation old, but he felt the savings was worth it.

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 10:39 AM

This topic is intended to cover the TV discussions that happen here on Two Bills Drive. 

Helpful links to other forums/sources of info appreciated here.

A great forum for TV talk is at AVS Forum, in the Rear Projection TV forum.  Other great forums are also available.

A decent overview of the different TV technologies and their associated pros and cons can be found here.  Other articles that cover the technologies can be found off the home page.

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OMFG that AVS forum is a biatch to read.

too many colors

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 10:41 AM

My obligatory link to the TV comparisons: http://www.digiupdat...HD_Display.html

The bottom line is not to buy the "cheapest" version of any of them.  Cheap LCD's will have bad refresh rates (which means the players will quite literally "streaK" across the screen).  Cheap Plasmas will have short lifetimes (which means you can expect to replace them sooner). 

The front projections are not covered here.  Obligatory link to the AVS forums as well: http://www.avsforum.com/
Rear projection forum here: http://www.avsforum.....php?forumid=63

BTW, look for the pinned TV Talk like in the consumer board, as soon as I can get around to it.  I'll try to link to discussions like these when they come up, so they don't get lost.

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digiupdate link broken

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 10:53 AM

OMFG that AVS forum is a biatch to read.

too many colors

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Hard to read...? :w00t: There's a ton of banner ads at the top, but you can skip 'em.

http://www.avsforum....isplay.php?f=64
http://www.avsforum....isplay.php?f=63
http://www.avsforum....isplay.php?f=40
http://www.avsforum....isplay.php?f=68

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 10:58 AM

Hard to read...?  :w00t:  There's a ton of banner ads at the top, but you can skip 'em.

http://www.avsforum....isplay.php?f=64
http://www.avsforum....isplay.php?f=63
http://www.avsforum....isplay.php?f=40
http://www.avsforum....isplay.php?f=68

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Or you can use the Firefox browser and install the Adblock extension. Right click --> block and that ad source is gone. :)

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 12:57 PM

Hard to read...?  :w00t:  There's a ton of banner ads at the top, but you can skip 'em.

http://www.avsforum....isplay.php?f=64
http://www.avsforum....isplay.php?f=63
http://www.avsforum....isplay.php?f=40
http://www.avsforum....isplay.php?f=68

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Yeah, yellow text and blue background.

Poorest web design in the history of all mankind.

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 10:30 PM

Yeah, yellow text and blue background.

Poorest web design in the history of all mankind.

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Looks crisp and easy to read for me...

That said, if you login, you can change the website's "skin" so it looks different. That site is THE definitive source for information in the A/V world.
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