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#1 BB27

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 09:05 AM

Airbus A-380

This thing is huge.  I heard they have to rebuild airport terminals to accomodate the double decker feature.  Also it will take approximately 1 hour to load all the passengers.

US airlines haven't been jumping at buying them.  Airbus took a huge leap of faith in this project, and if it doesn't pay off, they may be in a bit of trouble.

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 09:20 AM

BB27, on Feb 11 2006, 09:05 AM, said:

Airbus A-380

This thing is huge.  I heard they have to rebuild airport terminals to accomodate the double decker feature.  Also it will take approximately 1 hour to load all the passengers.

US airlines haven't been jumping at buying them.  Airbus took a huge leap of faith in this project, and if it doesn't pay off, they may be in a bit of trouble.

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Will they be serving peanuts??   :doh:  ;)

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 11:03 AM

I hope Airbus's new business plan crashes like a .... airbus!

No way I want our tax money spent to accomodate a new airplane; Iraqis and Afgans need it so much more!

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 11:06 AM

If airports need to rebuild airport terminals, I see this thing going over like a Led Zeppelin.  No wait, they were great and successful.  Like  lead balloon.

Edit:  Remind self to buy some Boeing stock.

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 11:09 AM

MadBuffaloDisease, on Feb 11 2006, 12:06 PM, said:

Edit:  Remind self to buy some Boeing stock.

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Interestingly, Airbus got bigger with its planes, Boeing built smaller. Time will tell who won that gamble.

Oh, and Virgin has already line dup to buy a bunch of these monsters.

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 11:16 AM

Puhonix, on Feb 11 2006, 11:09 AM, said:

Interestingly, Airbus got bigger with its planes, Boeing built smaller. Time will tell who won that gamble.

Oh, and Virgin has already line dup to buy a bunch of these monsters.

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And a lot of Pacific Rim and Indian Ocean airlines are going to be chomping at the bit to pick them up, too.  There's a hard limit to how many airplanes you can fly off a given runway; once that limit's hit, the only way to increase passenger throughput is to fly bigger planes.  Ultimately, although it was designed for long-range luxury flights, that's what made the 747 successful - high-volume short range regional hops, such as between the Japanese islands, where they fly 400+ people per flight - and killed McDonnel-Douglas.  And ultimately, although the A380 was designed for long-range luxury flights...I'm betting it's the high-volume, short range regional hops where they'll fly 800+ people per flight that ends up being the A380's market.

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 02:34 PM

Some previous A380 discussion.

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 03:14 PM

Believe it or not... My 7 year son has heard of that plane and said he seen something on it... Knows it is "a double decker the whole way" (unlike a 747).

He LOVES big planes! ;)

:doh:  ;)  :lol:  :D

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 04:20 PM

ExiledInIllinois, on Feb 11 2006, 03:14 PM, said:

Believe it or not... My 7 year son has heard of that plane and said he seen something on it... Knows it is "a double decker the whole way" (unlike a 747).

He LOVES big planes! ;)

:doh:  ;)  :lol:  :D

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Then introduce him to the An-124 Condor.  Or if he wants REALLY big, the An-225.

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 04:32 PM

I recently had to a bunch of research on the different routes Boeing and Airbus have taken in securing their future.  
The more I learned, the more I think this A-380 is going to eventually kill Airbus.  
Boeing's new "dreamliner" is where the future lies.

Of course if you look around at all the different arguments one way or the other it's pretty much split down the middle.

Only time will tell.

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 04:58 PM

Faustus, on Feb 11 2006, 05:32 PM, said:

I recently had to a bunch of research on the different routes Boeing and Airbus have taken in securing their future. 
The more I learned, the more I think this A-380 is going to eventually kill Airbus. 
Boeing's new "dreamliner" is where the future lies.

Of course if you look around at all the different arguments one way or the other it's pretty much split down the middle.

Only time will tell.

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I agree, the new Boeing "Dreamliner" will probably beat out the A-380 due to what will probably be the most modern airliner ever.  The B - 777 is allready giving Airbus a run for its money.

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 05:26 PM

Crap Throwing Monkey, on Feb 11 2006, 04:20 PM, said:

Then introduce him to the An-124 Condor.  Or if he wants REALLY big, the An-225.

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Thanks Tom!

I can't wait to show him those hyperlinks!

I don't know where the heck he gets his info from... I think it might be my wife, a librarian... Always bringing an arm load of books home... Can't fault that!

One of his favorite plane models was a Mirage... Not big but, pointy... Serves me right for getting an MatchBox plane like that... He still thinks fondly of that French made parental nightmare (just affectionately as "The Mirage")and how it got heaved! :doh:  ;)

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 06:11 PM

Puhonix, on Feb 11 2006, 12:09 PM, said:

Interestingly, Airbus got bigger with its planes, Boeing built smaller. Time will tell who won that gamble.

Oh, and Virgin has already line dup to buy a bunch of these monsters.

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Airbus sadly. Love that avatar man. CW is a big time favorite of mine.

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 07:09 PM

BB27, on Feb 11 2006, 09:05 AM, said:

Airbus A-380

This thing is huge.  I heard they have to rebuild airport terminals to accomodate the double decker feature.  Also it will take approximately 1 hour to load all the passengers.

US airlines haven't been jumping at buying them.  Airbus took a huge leap of faith in this project, and if it doesn't pay off, they may be in a bit of trouble.

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They had a segment on the new Airbus plane on the National Geographic channel and the History channel.  They said that the plane is SO big that, like someone else said before me they have to expand airports.  The problem with this is that the expansion will mean the tearing down of near by neighborhoods.  From what I've seen these shows have shown that there is already a situation somewhere in Germany where an airport is trying to expand itself in order to have to Airbus.  They are thrying to build over nearby neighborhoods that have been there for over 75 years and some areas are wine vineyards.  Also the major problem they said that because these engine on the plane are so powerful that they create a lot of noise.  They mentioned that you could hear the plane from over 15,000 feet in the air and from over 7 miles away.  Yeah sure the plane will be the biggest plane in the world but there are huge side affects.  Ticket prices they say will range from anywhere between $750-$1,000 per person on the single level and $2,500-10,000 per person on the second level.  This isn't because it's first class but it has it's own bar and other insane features.

This is crazy!  How are people suppose to afford a trip on this plane?  I'm 16 and I even know a bad idea when I see it.  Is this really where where going in our world? :doh:

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 07:20 PM

Airbus is crap!  I always check the plane when I am booking and avoid flying on an Airbus at all costs

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 08:16 PM

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 09:24 PM

ExiledInIllinois, on Feb 11 2006, 12:14 PM, said:

Believe it or not... My 7 year son has heard of that plane and said he seen something on it... Knows it is "a double decker the whole way" (unlike a 747).

He LOVES big planes! ;)

:doh:  ;)  :lol:  :D

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Has he heard of the Spruce Goose?  That's a pretty big plane.  It's sitting in a museum not too far from me.   :lol:

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 09:27 PM

LanaK6, on Feb 11 2006, 06:24 PM, said:

Has he heard of the Spruce Goose?  That's a pretty big plane.  It's sitting in a museum not too far from me.   :doh:

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Have you been down there to see it ???  I keep saying I need to, with as close as it is, but still haven't made it yet...

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 09:49 PM

richjk21, on Feb 11 2006, 06:27 PM, said:

Have you been down there to see it ???  I keep saying I need to, with as close as it is, but still haven't made it yet...

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I drove by it on the way to the beach one time but haven't seen it yet.

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Posted 12 February 2006 - 12:00 AM

LSI Cadets, on Feb 11 2006, 07:09 PM, said:

This is crazy!  How are people suppose to afford a trip on this plane?  I'm 16 and I even know a bad idea when I see it.  Is this really where where going in our world? :D

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Largely the same problems they had with the 747 (particularly the pricing and "silly features" like a gym and casino).  Ultimately, they solved them...and the niche market turned out to be entirely unlike the original "country club in the sky" vision of the plane.  Again...Airbus WILL find themselves building 800-seat versions in short order for the Pacific Rim.

The bigger issue that will pop up will be when one of these suckers crashes.  Lots of people will die, and there will be a push to outlaw planes larger than a given size on the principle that they're inherently dangerous in that it's impossible to evacuate 800 people from a plane in timely fashion.