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#1 Tiberius

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 11:30 AM

On Thursday, the New Orleans City Council voted 6-1 in favor of an ordinance that paves the way for the removal of four Confederate monuments. They include monuments that honor Confederate Generals Robert E. Lee and P.G.T. Beauregard, one for President Jefferson Davis, as well as a monument to the postwar battle of Liberty Place. In that 1874 uprising, the Crescent City White League, a white-supremacist group, briefly overthrew an integrated Reconstruction government. This decision constitutes the most sweeping removal of Confederate iconography since the lowering of the Confederate battle flag in Columbia, South Carolina, this past summer, and offers the clearest evidence yet that the Lost Cause view of the Civil War has finally lost.

 

http://www.theatlant...numents/421059/

 

Good move! Shouldn't have trash like that on their streets 



#2 Chef Jim

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 11:49 AM

Why do you consider them trash? 

 

Shall they be removed from history books as well?

 

Why are you and others so offended and/or threatened by our history? 

 

Ooooooh questions...........



#3 DC Tom

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 11:56 AM

http://www.theatlant...numents/421059/

 

Good move! Shouldn't have trash like that on their streets 

 

Trash like Robert E. Lee?  You're an ignorant little ****.



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Posted 18 December 2015 - 12:02 PM

Today I learned Gator and ISIS have the same feelings about history and monuments. 



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Posted 18 December 2015 - 12:13 PM

Today I learned Gator and ISIS have the same feelings about history and monuments. 

 

It had never occurred to me to liken the removal of 'offensive' American historical monuments to the radical Islamists' removal of 'offensive' non-Muslim monuments. This is an excellent point, and I would be fascinated to see any logical counter to that argument.

 

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#6 Nanker

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 12:14 PM

Oh look, another little gater LAMP. How cute.



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Posted 18 December 2015 - 12:15 PM

The Confederacy was a group of traitors.  That they weren't summarily executed when the war ended is a testament to something called "forgiveness" and "tolerance".  You may want to look it up. 

 

I wouldn't expect to see monuments in honor of Goebbels standing in Germany. 

 

Robert E. Lee's allegiance was to his state as opposed to his country.  I wouldn't call him a POS, but he was a traitor.  Had the Confederacy won, then the story would be different.

 

Being from the North, I didn't grow up with statues of traitors all over.  However, it probably is time they go to a museum where they belong.

 

"War's over.  You lost. Get over it."



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Posted 18 December 2015 - 12:20 PM

http://www.theatlant...numents/421059/
 
Good move! Shouldn't have trash like that on their streets 

Why is it a good move? What makes it trash? Its a part of their history.

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It's important to understand history, and not just the parts you find convenient for your agenda.

The Confederacy was a group of traitors.  That they weren't summarily executed when the war ended is a testament to something called "forgiveness" and "tolerance".  You may want to look it up. 
 
I wouldn't expect to see monuments in honor of Goebbels standing in Germany. 
 
Robert E. Lee's allegiance was to his state as opposed to his country.  I wouldn't call him a POS, but he was a traitor.  Had the Confederacy won, then the story would be different.
 
Being from the North, I didn't grow up with statues of traitors all over.  However, it probably is time they go to a museum where they belong.
 
"War's over.  You lost. Get over it."

Your comparing a fanatical Nazi to the American civil war confederacy.... Got it.

Edited by drinkTHEkoolaid, 18 December 2015 - 12:21 PM.


#9 Deranged Rhino

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 12:26 PM

The Confederacy was a group of traitors.  That they weren't summarily executed when the war ended is a testament to something called "forgiveness" and "tolerance".  You may want to look it up. 
 
I wouldn't expect to see monuments in honor of Goebbels standing in Germany. 
 
Robert E. Lee's allegiance was to his state as opposed to his country.  I wouldn't call him a POS, but he was a traitor.  Had the Confederacy won, then the story would be different.
 
Being from the North, I didn't grow up with statues of traitors all over.  However, it probably is time they go to a museum where they belong.
 
"War's over.  You lost. Get over it."


Erasing history doesn't change it, it merely assures that the same mistakes will get repeated.

#10 Azalin

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 12:26 PM

The Confederacy was a group of traitors.  That they weren't summarily executed when the war ended is a testament to something called "forgiveness" and "tolerance".  You may want to look it up. 

 

I wouldn't expect to see monuments in honor of Goebbels standing in Germany. 

 

Robert E. Lee's allegiance was to his state as opposed to his country.  I wouldn't call him a POS, but he was a traitor.  Had the Confederacy won, then the story would be different.

 

Being from the North, I didn't grow up with statues of traitors all over.  However, it probably is time they go to a museum where they belong.

 

"War's over.  You lost. Get over it."

 

Being from up north, you grew up with statues of revolutionary war 'traitors' everywhere. That you don't see the similarity between the two surprises me.



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Posted 18 December 2015 - 12:27 PM

Why is it a good move? What makes it trash? Its a part of their history.


It's important to understand history, and not just the parts you find convenient for your agenda.

 

Your comparing a fanatical Nazi to the American civil war confederacy.... Got it.

 

 

In a post that lectures us about "forgiveness and "tolerance"............................hysterical.

 

I wonder what the enlightened class 150 years from now will wipe out in our society.       :D

 

 

 

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And here is the real reason:

 

The decision spurred in June when Democratic Mayor Mitch Landrieu, who is eyeing a Senate bid, requested the statues be taken out of the public square and placed in a museum.

 


Edited by B-Man, 18 December 2015 - 12:34 PM.


#12 DC Tom

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 12:54 PM

The Confederacy was a group of traitors.  That they weren't summarily executed when the war ended is a testament to something called "forgiveness" and "tolerance".  You may want to look it up. 

 

I wouldn't expect to see monuments in honor of Goebbels standing in Germany. 

 

Of course, Goebbels wasn't a traitor.  An accurate analogy would be a statue of Canaris or von Stauffenberg

 

 

Robert E. Lee's allegiance was to his state as opposed to his country.  

 

Which was common at the time.  So you judge people 150 years ago on today's attitude that states are arbitrary bureaucratic boundaries, and not independent or semi-independent entities?  That says more about you than it does about Lee.



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Posted 18 December 2015 - 12:57 PM

The Confederacy was a group of traitors.  That they weren't summarily executed when the war ended is a testament to something called "forgiveness" and "tolerance".  You may want to look it up. 

 

I wouldn't expect to see monuments in honor of Goebbels standing in Germany. 

 

Robert E. Lee's allegiance was to his state as opposed to his country.  I wouldn't call him a POS, but he was a traitor.  Had the Confederacy won, then the story would be different.

 

Being from the North, I didn't grow up with statues of traitors all over.  However, it probably is time they go to a museum where they belong.

 

"War's over.  You lost. Get over it."

 

Waaaaait a minute.  You're gator's mom aren't you? 

 

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#14 Tiberius

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 01:30 PM

 

Being from up north, you grew up with statues of revolutionary war 'traitors' everywhere. That you don't see the similarity between the two surprises me.

I don't really see the similarities between the Revolution against a monarchy three thousand miles away and the slave holders rebellion that attempted to destroy our country 



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Posted 18 December 2015 - 01:33 PM

I don't really see the similarities between the Revolution against a monarchy three thousand miles away and the slave holders rebellion that attempted to destroy our country 

 

All the more reason to learn from history rather than destroying it.



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Posted 18 December 2015 - 01:36 PM

 

Trash like Robert E. Lee?  You're an ignorant little ****.

What makes him so worthy? Sending his men to almost certain death at Malvern Hill? Brilliant move! 


 

All the more reason to learn from history rather than destroying it.

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 01:37 PM

What makes him so worthy? Sending his men to almost certain death at Malvern Hill? Brilliant move! 

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 01:44 PM

http://www.theatlant...numents/421059/

 

Good move! Shouldn't have trash like that on their streets 

 

 

you cant erase the past, or make it right by removing artifacts that represent it.  These items are a good reminder, good contrast to what we have achieved today as a Country.  As much as I don't agree with The Confederacy, its important part of things we hold true and dear today.



#19 DC Tom

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 01:45 PM

What makes him so worthy? Sending his men to almost certain death at Malvern Hill? Brilliant move! 

 

His American war record, dumbass.



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Posted 18 December 2015 - 01:49 PM

 

His American war record, dumbass.

 

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