There also all the losses we got because the D was terrible, so there is that. There's also not having his WRs healthy most games, so there's that too.
And having the best running game in the league taking pressure off the passing game, leaving teams saying, "Make him play QB." So there's that also.
Before this season I was still thinking there were pretty decent odds that Tyrod could make those huge steps up that he needed to make to become a top ten or twelve guy. After seeing the same weaknesses we saw last year continue to plague him, I just don't see it happening.
He won it all without a qb two years ago, he's gonna try it again.
Manning wasn't Manning anymore that season.
But he was still better than people remember. He had four 4th quarter comebacks that year and four game-winning drives.
Elway has taken his team to the playoffs almost every year. Won the division title a bunch of times, won 2 AFC championships and 1 SuperBowl with a less than steller QB and drafted/traded for 30 total ProBowlers during his tenure as GM. He is also a hall of fame QB. He has been trying to bring in Tyrod since 2015, last year and now this off-season again. Are you really insinuating you know more than John Elway about evaluating QB talent?
Elway doesn't really just like guys. He likes them depending on the situation. He "liked" Osweiler enough to make him an offer that wasn't much below the Texans offer. But he had a line he wasn't willing to go past. He didn't like Osweiler past that line.
There's no evidence that Elway likes Tyrod in the Broncos current situation, or if he'd like him with that contract, or if he still likes him after his performance this season.
We don't know Elway's stance right now on Tyrod.
Edited by Thurman#1, 12 January 2017 - 12:32 AM.