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#121 Augie

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Posted 10 April 2017 - 07:31 PM

So would a good product.
But the Bills don't have a clue how to field one so they do their best sell job and of course the guillible fan base buys in.


A good coach is one of the first steps going toward a good product. (And yes, before you go off, a good QB is also an important ingredient.)

#122 wilcoam

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 01:20 PM

IMO a good coach is someone who makes wins out of losses and whose game plan and scheme overcomes lack of talent

And that's why Rex was fired by Pegs only after 2 years

 

I think he would still be here regardless of TT's play and all the failings of our offense

Because I give Rex credit for overseeing more points scored and a better efficient offense than what he took over in 2015

Which would have been the only reason to retain Rex

 

That is in contrast to having taken over a 2014 #2D and utilizing a new scheme and coaching that got much less out of the talent

When they continued that unabated in 2016 Pegs saw enough 

I believe it was the PIT game when our owner came to the same conclusion most of us already had during the prior season

That's Rex's philosophy wasn't getting the most of our existing talent and he wasn't making wins out of loses

And having his brother around didn't change anything 

 

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 01:58 PM

I liked Rex when he 1st got here, I bought in... but he is just a bad coach.  Then add Rob to the mix, who is even worse. Yuck!

 

Rex's only upside was players loved him.  I don't want a coach to be loved.  I want him to be respected.  Just look at the Patriots, no one loves Hoodie...

 

Honestly, I thought the past two years this team had the talent to go really deep into the playoffs.  Maybe even into the big game.  He screwed this up so bad that now we are in a mini rebuild. 

 

How did he fool every one 2 years ago? ....

People are quick to say the players loved Rex.  Who are these players?  10% off the players on Rex's teams?  Media say so and who else?  Ravens players when he was DC?  I just don't get the propoganda.  People are quick to say players love Rex. 

 

Which Bills players loved Rex over the last two years?  Serious, not a rhetorical question.



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Posted 11 April 2017 - 02:02 PM

People are quick to say the players loved Rex.  Who are these players?  10% off the players on Rex's teams?  Media say so and who else?  Ravens players when he was DC?  I just don't get the propoganda.  People are quick to say players love Rex. 

 

Which Bills players loved Rex over the last two years?  Serious, not a rhetorical question.

This was the biggest problem with Rex as an HC.

 

My own personal theory was that he got used to having players on his side in NY.  He had a lot of vets left over from his first two successful years and they had a strong locker room presence behind him.  He took that for granted when he went to Buffalo.  He thought Dareus and Preston Brown and Mario were gonna be as insanely loyal to him as David Harris and that whole crew.  The problem was, Rex didn't earn the backing of the Bills locker room like he did in NY.  He just expected it.  And they turned on him by the end of the first year, because he gave them no reason to believe in him.


Edited by FireChan, 11 April 2017 - 02:02 PM.


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Posted 11 April 2017 - 02:11 PM

 

I seem to remember you were in favour of giving him the 2nd season Promo.  Not fishing - this is a genuine question - at what point did you think the Bills needed to make a change?  

 

I was also in favor of giving him a second season and for most of the year a 3rd.  After the Raiders game I started to waffle, then after the 200 yards given to Leveon I started leaning away slightly.  After the Miami game though I was all for letting him go.  Not having 11 on the field AGAIN in a critical spot, letting a team in it at the end AGAIN, giving up 200 yards on the ground AGAIN.  It appeared, that as another poster stated, Rex didn't really care.  I ended up at the same place with Mario Williams.  When you don't care enough to give maximum effort you can go.  Others opined that Rex cared more about the title than being a football coach.  I now agree with them. He was in love with being a celebrity.  His teams lacked consistency because imo he lacked consistency in game prep.  Some weeks you could tell he was invested and others he looked like he didn't give a sh*t.  He took cronyism to a whole new level.  It sucks that it didn't work, it sucks that he didn't put in the effort to make it work, it sucks that the Bills had to find a new coach (and system) 2 years later, but it doesn't suck that Rex won't be the HC next year.


Edited by section122, 11 April 2017 - 02:11 PM.