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#81 row_33

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 01:04 PM

 

Sounds delightful.

 

Well... If you are English speaking in Toronto with a large book of business and accustomed lifestyle, then your only option for transfer to another city in Canada (with anything comparable) would be Vancouver, if that even works out...

 

I am assuming someone in a similar situation living in a metropolitan or near-metro US city could transfer to several dozen cities.


American friends interviewing out of University with banks and insurance companies and accounting firms were kinda indifferent as to whether they wound up in St Louis or Miami or Pittsburgh or Seattle, for the most part.



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Posted 17 May 2017 - 05:24 PM

Has there been a decision?

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Posted 07 June 2017 - 01:49 PM

Hey just wanted to give everyone an update.

 

So it turns out my gut instinct was right about my old manager.

 

On May 26th my manager and CEO informed me they would not be bringing me back after my probation. (In Canada employers do not need a reason to let you go within the first 90 days of employement)

 

I wasn’t that upset because I did want out and couldn’t stand the unprofessionalism of my manager.

 

Then I was given a termination letter explaining why I was not coming back and that’s when I got really angry.

 

In the letter, it stated I was not coming back because “despite numerous closed door meetings with my manager” I kept on making the same mistakes.

 

This upset me for two reasons.

 

  1. Never. Not once, did I ever have any meetings with my manager about my job performance. She never told me I was doing anything wrong or that I was making mistakes (which I know I wasn’t)
  2. I wasn’t making mistakes because she would come to me with questions from time to time and I had to show her how to do things she had no experience with like how to read a credit report etc..

 

I voiced this in the meeting and my manager was silent during all of it and had her hands together covering her mouth. I said to the CEO that I never have had any meetings about my job performance and all my manager said was “yes we did”

 

I replied saying we never had closed door meetings and you never told me I was doing anything wrong.

 

The CEO then said, “well regardless, the decision has been made”

 

I packed up my stuff as it was the end of the day and went home.

 

I emailed the recruiter about the job I turned down and there was still one opening which I accepted even though its only an 8 month contract.

 

I have now been here almost two weeks and sadly it isn’t the job I applied for. Literally.

 

The job title I applied for was “Credit and collections specialist” and during my training, I asked when we were going to learn about the “Credit” side of this job. The trainer looked at me like I had 8 heads and said we don’t do credit here. (the position here is A/R Analyst)

 

So I don’t know if the recruiting agency posted the wrong position or if they just post a bunch of different search words hoping to get more applicants since A/R is similar to Credit and Collections.

 

Anyways, I just had a second interview for a Credit and Collections rep for a company in the same city as I was working before and I really hope it pans out.

 

When I posted earlier about this job Im at now, I mentioned the commute was the main worry. Well that still holds true.

 

In the morning, If I get here in 75 minutes, I consider that to be a great drive. On the way home, it takes me 2 hours average every day unless I take the toll highway but that is expensive and it only shaves 30 mins off my commute home.

 

Thanks again for all your opinions earlier and advice and I hope to get back to you all with good news about the job I just interviewed for. The manager told me he should know by Friday or Monday.

 

 

CBF



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Posted 07 June 2017 - 01:57 PM

It's frustrating when folks mislead or lie about circumstances that led to a hire/fire decision, but it happens more than most would like to admit. 

Best of luck to you in the new venture, and don't let a sudden detour deflect you from your long term career goals. 


Edited by TheElectricCompany, 07 June 2017 - 01:57 PM.


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Posted 07 June 2017 - 01:58 PM

that bit@# 

 

Good luck CBF  (grudgingly “Credit and collections specialist”) 

 

I hate those guys who call.  Make 1 mistake and they hound you.....



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Posted 07 June 2017 - 02:00 PM

that bit@# 

 

Good luck CBF  (grudgingly “Credit and collections specialist”) 

 

I hate those guys who call.  Make 1 mistake and they hound you.....

 

 

Thanks man.

 

I actually take pride that I am always polite and professional when I call. Also, its for business not personal credit and collections

 

 

 

CBF



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Posted 07 June 2017 - 02:02 PM

thanks for the update CBF, best wishes and hopes for you to get something you really enjoy without the long commute!!!!

 

yeah, people are like that unfortunately, I've seen managers and accounting partners fired and the staff comes out into the halls to yell and dance and jump up and down with joy.



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Posted 07 June 2017 - 02:06 PM

Thanks everyone. I was really happy deep down because if I stayed on I was seriously contemplating going to the doctors to discuss going on anxiety medication

 

 

 

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Posted 07 June 2017 - 02:09 PM

Thanks everyone. I was really happy deep down because if I stayed on I was seriously contemplating going to the doctors to discuss going on anxiety medication

 

 

 

CBF

 

 

pack up your troubles in your old kit bag

and smile smile smile...

 

gotta develop some heavy duty coping tricks for when you are really facing a wolf at the door.....  i'm not good at it myself but have had to when I had to...



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Posted 07 June 2017 - 02:10 PM

 

 

pack up your troubles in your old kit bag

and smile smile smile...

 

gotta develop some heavy duty coping tricks for when you are really facing a wolf at the door.....  i'm not good at it myself but have had to when I had to...

 

 

Good advice!

 

 

CBF



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Posted 07 June 2017 - 02:14 PM

 

 

Thanks man.

 

I actually take pride that I am always polite and professional when I call. Also, its for business not personal credit and collections

 

 

 

CBF

You sound like a very professional and dedicated employee. What did you in was not your work performance but it was the insecurity of a boss who felt threatened. In the long run the employees (including supervisors) who are fakers and connivers will be discovered and they will get their due. 

 

Just do the best you can in your current job and keep your eyes open. My suggestion to you is to be discrete and don't show your frustration at the fact that the job you are doing is not the job that was advertised to you. 

 

I had a job in the government where one supervisor for unknown reasons hated me. I never understood why? He went out of his way to harass me and try to force me to quit. He went so far as to have me periodically staked out in the hope of catching me in a mistake. In the end this fool created so many enemies that he ended up sabotaging himself and was forced out. 

 

Remember, in the end good people prevail. I'm confident that eventually you will find yourself in a good situation. Good luck. 



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Posted 07 June 2017 - 02:18 PM

You sound like a very professional and dedicated employee. What did you in was not your work performance but it was the insecurity of a boss who felt threatened. In the long run the employees (including supervisors) who are fakers and connivers will be discovered and they will get their due. 

 

Just do the best you can in your current job and keep your eyes open. My suggestion to you is to be discrete and don't show your frustration at the fact that the job you are doing is not the job that was advertised to you. 

 

I had a job in the government where one supervisor for unknown reasons hated me. I never understood why? He went out of his way to harass me and try to force me to quit. He went so far as to have me periodically staked out in the hope of catching me in a mistake. In the end this fool created so many enemies that he ended up sabotaging himself and was forced out. 

 

Remember, in the end good people prevail. I'm confident that eventually you will find yourself in a good situation. Good luck. 

 

 

Thanks so much John!

 

Yeah I have no doubt she is going to get whats coming to her

 

 

CBF



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Posted 07 June 2017 - 02:26 PM

The old position is gone, but I would have asked the CEO for documentation (meeting requests, notes about performance, follow ups) as confirmation to their not renewing your contract.

 

Now - just let it go.  Run your 8 month contract, but at the same time get looking!!



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Posted 07 June 2017 - 02:26 PM

 

 

I had a job in the government where one supervisor for unknown reasons hated me. I never understood why? He went out of his way to harass me and try to force me to quit. He went so far as to have me periodically staked out in the hope of catching me in a mistake. In the end this fool created so many enemies that he ended up sabotaging himself and was forced out. 

 

Remember, in the end good people prevail. I'm confident that eventually you will find yourself in a good situation. Good luck

 

I had this same supervisor.  He put one of his flunkies in my department to spy on me.  The flunky was the worst worker ever in my department.  Eventually the supervisor was forced out and did we ever have a big party after he left.

 

Anyways, good luck CBF.   Keep us posted



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Posted 07 June 2017 - 02:33 PM

Sorry to hear it all went sideways for you, but I'm glad you don't have to look over your shoulder all day for the b!&%#. If it was so bad you even thought about seeking medical support, it's best that you're out. This could be a blessing, because it forced you to move on from a bad situation. I've been there, and getting out of a toxic situation is the best thing that can happen. The right thing comes along when it's supposed to, even if it doesn't seem soon enough.

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Posted 07 June 2017 - 02:39 PM

Sorry to hear things went south. It is always for the best in the long run. Keep looking for a better job close to home. Maybe start your own business doing AR collections. 



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Posted 07 June 2017 - 02:41 PM

I had this same supervisor.  He put one of his flunkies in my department to spy on me.  The flunky was the worst worker ever in my department.  Eventually the supervisor was forced out and did we ever have a big party after he left.

 

Anyways, good luck CBF.   Keep us posted

There is a truism that what you give you get back. The boorish individual who harassed me bought a top of the line car. He made the mistake of leaving a window open where someone threw in a skunk smelling product that permanently stunk the interior. His crazed response was priceless. 



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Posted 07 June 2017 - 05:43 PM

Hey just wanted to give everyone an update.

 

So it turns out my gut instinct was right about my old manager.

 

On May 26th my manager and CEO informed me they would not be bringing me back after my probation. (In Canada employers do not need a reason to let you go within the first 90 days of employement)

 

I wasn’t that upset because I did want out and couldn’t stand the unprofessionalism of my manager.

 

Then I was given a termination letter explaining why I was not coming back and that’s when I got really angry.

 

In the letter, it stated I was not coming back because “despite numerous closed door meetings with my manager” I kept on making the same mistakes.

 

This upset me for two reasons.

 

  1. Never. Not once, did I ever have any meetings with my manager about my job performance. She never told me I was doing anything wrong or that I was making mistakes (which I know I wasn’t)
  2. I wasn’t making mistakes because she would come to me with questions from time to time and I had to show her how to do things she had no experience with like how to read a credit report etc..

 

I voiced this in the meeting and my manager was silent during all of it and had her hands together covering her mouth. I said to the CEO that I never have had any meetings about my job performance and all my manager said was “yes we did”

 

I replied saying we never had closed door meetings and you never told me I was doing anything wrong.

 

The CEO then said, “well regardless, the decision has been made”

 

I packed up my stuff as it was the end of the day and went home.

 

I emailed the recruiter about the job I turned down and there was still one opening which I accepted even though its only an 8 month contract.

 

I have now been here almost two weeks and sadly it isn’t the job I applied for. Literally.

 

The job title I applied for was “Credit and collections specialist” and during my training, I asked when we were going to learn about the “Credit” side of this job. The trainer looked at me like I had 8 heads and said we don’t do credit here. (the position here is A/R Analyst)

 

So I don’t know if the recruiting agency posted the wrong position or if they just post a bunch of different search words hoping to get more applicants since A/R is similar to Credit and Collections.

 

Anyways, I just had a second interview for a Credit and Collections rep for a company in the same city as I was working before and I really hope it pans out.

 

When I posted earlier about this job Im at now, I mentioned the commute was the main worry. Well that still holds true.

 

In the morning, If I get here in 75 minutes, I consider that to be a great drive. On the way home, it takes me 2 hours average every day unless I take the toll highway but that is expensive and it only shaves 30 mins off my commute home.

 

Thanks again for all your opinions earlier and advice and I hope to get back to you all with good news about the job I just interviewed for. The manager told me he should know by Friday or Monday.

 

 

CBF

 

"Closed-door meetings?  No...the only written feedback I got was a post-it note smiley..."

 

Count your blessings.  I can't even get interviews.  Because I "failed" an IQ test.



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Posted 07 June 2017 - 06:31 PM

 

 

Thanks so much John!

 

Yeah I have no doubt she is going to get whats coming to her

 

 

CBF

 

Go on one of the company review sites like glassdoors and state type of management they have.


 

"Closed-door meetings?  No...the only written feedback I got was a post-it note smiley..."

 

Count your blessings.  I can't even get interviews.  Because I "failed" an IQ test.

 

Most companies hate it when you spell check and grammar correct their tests,

 

I had a professor once on a CS 400/500 class take my feedback seriously and I took the final first and "corrected it" before final was given.  

Considering I had an A in class no matter what result I got on the final it was an easy decision to be made.

He once gave me a credit in one of his text books.



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Posted 07 June 2017 - 07:03 PM

CBF, that sounds awful and unjust. Sounds like you handled it in a classy professional way. In the end, I think things will work out for a good guy like yourself. Don't stress it!