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#41 TheElectricCompany

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 12:15 PM

darby is more confusing to me than watkins.  i at least understand the logic behind trading watkins.

Tre & Darby as your up and coming corners is something solid to build on. 

Inconsistent in the past two years, but the talent is there and only 23. 

Who the hell is EJ Gaines? 


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#42 TOboy

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 12:15 PM

I wonder how the vets feel about these moves? A guy like Kyle who was talked into coming back this season. Or a guy like Boldin, after all the talk about him being brought in to mentor Sammy. 



#43 nickrage

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 12:15 PM

Wow. This just seems like Beane and McDermott are cutting all ties with Whaleys moves.

#44 Romie

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 12:16 PM

But when bill bellichick pulls this **** its genious. I say good. Get somthin for sammy while you can, were going to lead the league in rushing anyway.

#45 Bangarang

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 12:16 PM

If Shady gets traded then I'll believe we are tanking.

#46 nickrage

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 12:17 PM

I am bumming.

#47 jrober38

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 12:17 PM

I wonder how the vets feel about these moves? A guy like Kyle who was talked into coming back this season. Or a guy like Boldin, after all the talk about him being brought in to mentor Sammy. 

 

If the Bills had any class they'd cut Kyle Williams and let him latch on with a playoff team.

 

These trades, and our clear intent to rebuild through the draft make it pretty clear this team isn't going to compete for another few years while they search for and groom a young QB. 



#48 Commonsense

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 12:17 PM

Watkins and Darby trades were made to appease Kim Jung and save Guam.

#49 Figster

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 12:18 PM

tank...

 

...with Brandons name written all over it...



#50 jrober38

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 12:18 PM

If Shady gets traded then I'll believe we are tanking.

If the Bills were smart they'd trade McCoy and get some compensation and get out from that contract.

 

This team is no longer built to compete this year, so we might as well cash in on McCoy. 



#51 Bray Wyatt

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 12:18 PM

I really look at this/these trades as an even make out based on last year, but we gained picks. Im warming up to the idea although I really liked Sammy, Darby not so much



#52 aristocrat

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 12:20 PM

We traded 1k wr for another 1k wr and traded a db and got s db. Plus we got High picks. I think this season didn't change too much but long term could be amazing Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 12:20 PM

If Shady gets traded then I'll believe we are tanking.

Maybe, but Shady has no real trade value.

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 12:21 PM

I really look at this/these trades as an even make out based on last year, but we gained picks. Im warming up to the idea although I really liked Sammy, Darby not so much

 

Perhaps, but Sammy has the potential to be a BIG TIME player in this league. He may never pan out, but his ceiling is much higher than Mathews. 



#55 YoloinOhio

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 12:21 PM

very very poor return for Sammy Watkins

i agree but they aren't getting a first for him with being on last year of his contract. Now if they had picked up that option...

#56 BillsFan692

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 12:22 PM

We picked up a #1 caliber CB and a #1 caliber WR, we also picked up an extra 2nd and extra 3rd round draft pick. I think this is smart IMO. Chances are we are not going to have a legendary championship season, so hanging it all on Watkins and Darby is stupid. As McDermott has been saying -- build for short term and long term -- I honestly think this does not have a huge impact on us short term and it has tremendous upside long term.



#57 DDD

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 12:22 PM

The tank is in.  It's the right move.  The team is not close to being a legit playoff team and next year's draft looks to be very good for trying to get a franchise QB.  Good move by our new GM.



#58 Magox

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 12:22 PM

Would not surprise me if he got those targets yesterday BECAUSE he was being traded. 

 

That would suggest that Tyrod was in on it.  So I find that to be highly unlikely.



#59 teef

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 12:22 PM

We drafted CB in the 1st this year, and got a 3rd for a guy in Darby whose play fell off last year. I think it makes sense. 

i still think darby can be fantastic.  your logic is certainly right, and i'm sure that was the reasoning.  i guess it's all about picks at this point.


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#60 Bray Wyatt

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 12:23 PM

 

Perhaps, but Sammy has the potential to be a BIG TIME player in this league. He may never pan out, but his ceiling is much higher than Mathews. 

 

I agree, but at this point with his injury history and the offense we run I don't think it impacts us all that much this year. That's why I said I am bummed about Sammy but I get it