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Is McDermott/Bean just Jauron/Levy II?


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#201 Coach Tuesday

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 10:33 AM

But I look forward to reviving this thread during the season because I have a strong suspicion that many folks around here don't fully realize just how boring this team is going to look this season. Lots of four fieldgoal performances and "heartbreaking" bend-don't-break-then-finally-break losses that McD chalks up to "character building" and "learning how to win" and "showing good compete." By November August 18, I fear that this comparison will be oft-cited on this board and in the local media.

 

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#202 TheTruthHurts

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 10:44 AM

I laughed at this thread then I saw McDermott clapping while sending his FG unit out on 4th and 3. Looked just like Juaron.

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 11:42 AM

I laughed at this thread then I saw McDermott clapping while sending his FG unit out on 4th and 3. Looked just like Juaron.


I must admit, he's got the flummoxed face/hands on hips combo down pat.

That's not a good sign.

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 11:54 AM

I laughed at this thread then I saw McDermott clapping while sending his FG unit out on 4th and 3. Looked just like Juaron.

 

There was no excuse to not go for it in preseason as I said in the GDT.  



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Posted 18 August 2017 - 02:01 PM

you used the terms snowflake and butt salve in the same comment.  good for you!  

 

i'm sorry if my comment struck a nerve.  i get if you're in the group that a lot of people don't like to deal with you, but sometimes it just a personality thing.  try thinking outside the box to make new friends.  get involved in some activities that you may not typically feel comfortable with.  you'll be surprised who you meet!

No nerve struck here. You're the one who threw a hissy fit...........

Tip: There are meds for that........



#206 billsfan89

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 02:13 PM

I don't think you can draw a comparison. Leavy was an old GM drafting and operating under what he knew. The game had passed Levy by and he entrusted a lot of the organizational and football decisions to Jauron. Jauron was a coach with a less than stellar track record who lucked into being a head coach for an incompetent team.

 

Beane and McD are both young guys who are trying to make their mark on an organization. They are fairly modern NFL thinkers who are trying to move forward. I think they are more so comparable to Donough and Greggo than Leavy and Jauron. 



#207 Straight Hucklebuck

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 04:42 PM

I don't think you can draw a comparison. Leavy was an old GM drafting and operating under what he knew. The game had passed Levy by and he entrusted a lot of the organizational and football decisions to Jauron. Jauron was a coach with a less than stellar track record who lucked into being a head coach for an incompetent team.
 
Beane and McD are both young guys who are trying to make their mark on an organization. They are fairly modern NFL thinkers who are trying to move forward. I think they are more so comparable to Donough and Greggo than Leavy and Jauron. 


What evidence is there that McDermott is a "fairly modern NFL thinker"?

When he talked about offfense it sounded archaic.

#208 Straight Hucklebuck

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 03:05 PM

#BADOL nailed this comparison.

As you've seen this Training Camp play out you have to agree with the similarities.

- overvaluing special teams

- cutting key backup positions like RB and MLB

- a parade of fringe NFL talents being brought to this roster

- a popgun "timing" offense that can't score

- an outdated Tampa 2 defense

- the constant mantra of working really hard and correcting mistakes

- paper thin depth everywhere, one deep

- creating a bunch of holes then trying to fill all the holes in the draft

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 03:09 PM

"Jauron-y".Must have missed the part where Beane is an out of touch senior citizen plucked out of retirement and forced into a role he really didn't want because nostalgia.
And the part where McD is a played-out retread brought in to be a cheap "yes man" while our old coot owner just tries to stay afloat in a league that had probably passed his ideology by years ago.
Yep. So similar it's spooky.


No doubt.

Must have been a BBMBer that started this thread.

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 04:19 PM

Lest I get accused of pounding the table on McDermott/Bean being Jauron/Levy II..........this thread was started as a question.

 

Time will tell.

 

The situation is different in some regards but the similarities are quite clear.

 

There are only so many types of coaches and so many types of re-tooling..........we've seen all of them except the "great" coach and "efficiently-executed" re-tool.

 

Bear in mind.......just because Jauron did it wrong doesn't mean that the same process can't work.

 

He just didn't have anything else up his sleeve after his remarkable year one turnaround.

 

But, ya' know.......Yale is no William and Mary so I can see how people think Jauron was not as smart. :flirt: