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#61 Forward Progress

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 03:21 PM

I think TT is and can be an NFL QB, but the offense has to be designed 100% around him. You need to have a team committed to him and build that team to run specific patterns.

The issue is this is not the offense for him and as this coaching staff is looking long term - not immediate results - they are installing an offense for the future and TT is not part of that future. If he worked out - great, but it is not.

It sucks for TT and the fans, but the point is that this team is building for the long term and are not going to design plays that just fit what TT does and mess with the development of the rest of the team for the future. We will see more of the overall offense with Peterman, but he needs some time.

 

I agree with this assessment. 



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Posted 23 September 2017 - 01:15 PM

There comes a point when you see on video....over and over.....and over WR's being open when the offense is running like their is no open recievers that you have to stop and ask the question.

 

Its getting hard to ignore

 

There are things I love that TT does on the field.....some of those things have actually been taken AWAY from him.....if your gonna do that then why play him?



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Posted 23 September 2017 - 01:25 PM

What know one really knows does TT look so shaky in practice that this is the game plan they go with.  Take no chances and rely on the defense to keep you in it. But they still feel overall TT looks better than Peterman?


Tyrod is making more money then Peterman and has the experience so it doesn't matter what Peterman does they are not looking to him even though they should in my opinion. I would have already made the change. I expect a same old Tyrod game this weekend, it's a big game so he will be doing a bunch of 3 and outs. I also expect a few pick 6s with the Denver line getting the pressure and hands up.

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 07:37 PM

I stopped reading after you said Zay Jones = Emmanuel Sanders.


I stopped reading after TT is better than Simien.

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 08:15 PM

I stopped reading after TT is better than Simien.

Good old Crusher and his agenda. Rooting for a W tomorrow or the usual?



#66 JAMIEBUF12

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 08:13 AM

In what world does jordan mathews compare to denarius thomas and zay jones to emmanual sanders?

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 08:30 AM

Look at his helmat he is looking right at Zay and Matthews even cocks to throw but then chickens out. Does it really matter if he was looking to right top of screen both slants open there too.

And instead of stepping up in a clean pocket, he shuffles directly into pressure on the right side.  We disagree on a lot of things, but Tyrod being a long-term solution isn't one of them.  I just wish coaches' hubris wouldn't cause us to go from top defense to bottom defense from one regime to the next and then above average offense to still-to-be-determined-but-not-promising from that regime to the current one.  We know how to maximize a limited QB already, from prior experience.  Maybe don't f with it just because you can.

 

Edit -- Zay is not equivalent to Sanders yet.  He looks very promising, but that's a silly comparison.


Edited by MPT, 24 September 2017 - 08:32 AM.


#68 MAJBobby

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 09:00 AM

Saint Doug is even running a more innovative Offense right now. Dennison blah

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 10:22 AM

I think TT is and can be an NFL QB, but the offense has to be designed 100% around him. You need to have a team committed to him and build that team to run specific patterns.

The issue is this is not the offense for him and as this coaching staff is looking long term - not immediate results - they are installing an offense for the future and TT is not part of that future. If he worked out - great, but it is not.

It sucks for TT and the fans, but the point is that this team is building for the long term and are not going to design plays that just fit what TT does and mess with the development of the rest of the team for the future. We will see more of the overall offense with Peterman, but he needs some time.

I think this is the correct assessment.  I hope Peterman develops to the point where we can see him play towards the end of the season.  Still expect and want a 2018 first round pick devoted to trying to secure a franchise qb.


Edited by Dr. Who, 24 September 2017 - 10:24 AM.


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Posted 24 September 2017 - 10:33 AM

I think TT is and can be an NFL QB, but the offense has to be designed 100% around him. You need to have a team committed to him and build that team to run specific patterns.

The issue is this is not the offense for him and as this coaching staff is looking long term - not immediate results - they are installing an offense for the future and TT is not part of that future. If he worked out - great, but it is not.

It sucks for TT and the fans, but the point is that this team is building for the long term and are not going to design plays that just fit what TT does and mess with the development of the rest of the team for the future. We will see more of the overall offense with Peterman, but he needs some time.

 

..just don't see it happening ROCH and I rarely disagree with you if at all.....too much TT catering for perfect star alignment......run first or "run heavy" offense advertisement with ONE stallion in the stable is sad......stack the box, shut it down and dare him to throw.......he just CANNOT process the field quick enough to find guys open......so a crowded box negates dink and dunk, which would be a quicker passing game.....what's left?...go long?.......can the OL hold blocks long enough and much has been said about WR corp not being able to get separation......sure as hell want the kid to succeed, but seven years at this level, 4 as an understudy and entering his 3rd as a starter tells me if the speed of the game at this level STILL is a mental impediment, all of the teaching and coaching cannot speed up the gray matter....sure hope I'm DEAD wrong............



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Posted 24 September 2017 - 10:42 AM

Saint Doug is even running a more innovative Offense right now. Dennison blah

But Hackett and stuff



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Posted 24 September 2017 - 10:46 AM

Overvalue the talent on this offense a bit

And undervalue Denver's talent, including "SEMIEN"



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Posted 24 September 2017 - 11:05 AM

And undervalue Denver's talent, including "SEMIEN"

 

....weren't there many a post here advocating trading for the Siemian kid?......hmmm....



#74 TheFunPolice

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 11:18 AM

Opposing teams have a strategy of making Tyrod be a QB

Think about that


The guy will not throw unless a guy is standing there wide open