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#921 26CornerBlitz

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 04:07 PM

 

Does that also mean that people shouldn't throw hissy fits about the 2017 offense?

 

:lol:  Whether they should or not doesn't matter.  The visceral reactions will continue after poor performances or losses because it's what fans do.  Hell there was even griping by some after the week one win.



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Posted 22 September 2017 - 04:18 PM

 

Does that also mean that people shouldn't throw hissy fits about the 2017 offense?

 

...in all fairness, they're alternating....last year it was the defense so now this year it's the offense........BOTH eventually on the same POSITIVE page?......hmmm.........



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Posted 22 September 2017 - 06:23 PM

Have you seen the haul it took for the Rams to go from 15th to 1 when they selected Goff?

The Bills would basically need to trade away 5/6 of their picks in the first three rounds in 18' and then trade away their first for the following year.

Whatever was given up to trade for Goff was well worth it. They now have a franchise qb while after a quarter of a century we still don't. Goff is going to get better while TT is going to remain what he is. I'm not knocking him because he is the best that we currently got. But if you want to thrive you either address the qb issue or continue on the path of wrenching mediocrity. Isn't a generation long enough for you? 



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Posted 22 September 2017 - 06:27 PM

Whatever was given up to trade for Goff was well worth it. They now have a franchise qb while after a quarter of a century we still don't. Goff is going to get better while TT is going to remain what he is. I'm not knocking him because he is the best that we currently got. But if you want to thrive you either address the qb issue or continue on the path of wrenching mediocrity. Isn't a generation long enough for you? 

That's a little premature IMO.  Sure he has looked good for a couple games.  So have a lot of other QBs that flamed out.



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Posted 22 September 2017 - 06:32 PM

That's a little premature IMO.  Sure he has looked good for a couple games.  So have a lot of other QBs that flamed out.

When a player dramatically gets better in his second year I'll gladly bet on that player. There are rarely guarantees but I'm confident that he is going to be a good qb. If you think otherwise that is fine. 



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Posted 22 September 2017 - 06:41 PM

When a player dramatically gets better in his second year I'll gladly bet on that player. There are rarely guarantees but I'm confident that he is going to be a good qb. If you think otherwise that is fine. 

I don't necessarily think otherwise.  He has looked good and they put a lot of resources around him to help him out.  I hope our team does the same when they draft their guy.  I just think its premature to call him a franchise QB already is all.



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Posted 22 September 2017 - 06:57 PM

Clearly, what was the turning point for the Rams was not the acquisition of Watkins but the bold trade-up to get Goff the prior year. Once this team secured its franchise qb it then had many options to upgrade the rest of the roster. There is no doubt that Watkins can be an important ingredient in the turn around but what was as important (my opinion) was the upgrading of the OL. 
 
Whaley was bold in the drafting of Watkins. The problem was that he got the basic sequence backwards. He should have used his boldness to first draft a serious franchise qb  before expending resources for secondary issues. The sad irony is after being fired he was asked what he would have done differently. His response: I would have put more effort in getting a qb. :wallbash:  
 
I'm happy for Watkins. He deserves to be in a situation where his scintillating talents can be manifested. It wasn't going to materialize in Buffalo because it has operated in a half-assssed backwards. Hopefully, in due time a smarter approach will reap rewards. 


I think you're generally right. It is just that Whaley thought EJ was the franchise guy at the time.

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 07:02 PM

What a fun game that was to watch! Remember when our offense was fun? Yeah, it seems like a long time ago.... :(

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 07:11 PM

I think you're generally right. It is just that Whaley thought EJ was the franchise guy at the time.

He was hideously wrong. He was not close to being a first round talent. Regardless of the position being evaluated it was a bad evaluation. Overall, his drafting record was average to below average. He and his staff being fired should not be a surprise. It was very warranted. 


What a fun game that was to watch! Remember when our offense was fun? Yeah, it seems like a long time ago.... :(

It seems like the franchise never fully recovered after the firing of Polian. That was the pivot point for this lackluster franchise.  :sick:







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