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#141 jmc12290

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 04:29 PM

 
You need more than just talent.

Yes. But talent is strongly correlated to production. You don't see the Jordan Matthews of the world in the top 5 or 10 receiving yards every year.

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#142 Doc

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 04:35 PM

Yes. But talent is strongly correlated to production. You don't see the Jordan Matthews of the world in the top 5 or 10 receiving yards every year.

 

Glad you mentioned him.  Despite his lack of talent relative to Sammy, he's been more productive in his career. 



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Posted 23 September 2017 - 04:39 PM

 
Glad you mentioned him.  Despite his lack of talent relative to Sammy, he's been more productive in his career. 


And yet, he'll never be in the top 20 in receiving yards.

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 04:48 PM

And yet, he'll never be in the top 20 in receiving yards.

 

How about catches?



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Posted 23 September 2017 - 04:50 PM

 
How about catches?


I'd rather have more yards and less catches than the converse.

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 07:12 PM

We could have Irvin, Reed and Rice and Tyrod still wouldn't have more than a 150 yards passing. Gotta have the draft picks to take care of the REAL problem on this team.



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Posted 23 September 2017 - 07:31 PM

We could have Irvin, Reed and Rice and Tyrod still wouldn't have more than a 150 yards passing. Gotta have the draft picks to take care of the REAL problem on this team.

 

 

And yet, he orchestrated the largest yardage produced game in Bills team history in a critical late-season game versus a division rival in a rare game where his playmakers were healthy.

 

Taylor isn't great but the misunderstanding about what he brings to the table is  :doh:



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Posted 23 September 2017 - 07:35 PM

 

 

And yet, he orchestrated the largest yardage produced game in Bills team history in a critical late-season game versus a division rival in a rare game where his playmakers were healthy.

 

Taylor isn't great but the misunderstanding about what he brings to the table is  :doh:

Didn't Trent break the record for highest completion percentage in a game by a Bill? :rolleyes:

 

28th and 30th in passing with Tyrod, that's all you have to know. The only time he orchestrates yards is when he hands the ball off. Dude averages under 200 yards passing per game. And people are on here defending him, which is even funnier. Absolutely no excuse to lose a game where your defense allows 9 points. He should be sitting on the bench.



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Posted 23 September 2017 - 07:48 PM

Didn't Trent break the record for highest completion percentage in a game by a Bill? :rolleyes:

 

28th and 30th in passing with Tyrod, that's all you have to know. The only time he orchestrates yards is when he hands the ball off. Dude averages under 200 yards passing per game. And people are on here defending him, which is even funnier. Absolutely no excuse to lose a game where your defense allows 9 points. He should be sitting on the bench.

This is funny. The defense was the main problem the last two years. Not the offense. TT played a big part in the running game. he scored many rushing TDs. he didn't turn the ball over. Fewest passing attempts because of the strong run game. And he had a lot of big games with Watkins in 2015. Dishonest posting here.


Didn't Trent break the record for highest completion percentage in a game by a Bill? :rolleyes:

 

28th and 30th in passing with Tyrod, that's all you have to know. The only time he orchestrates yards is when he hands the ball off. Dude averages under 200 yards passing per game. And people are on here defending him, which is even funnier. Absolutely no excuse to lose a game where your defense allows 9 points. He should be sitting on the bench.

And neither should we have lost the second Miami game last season. 



#150 Kirby Jackson

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 08:01 PM

 
We'll see what their offense is like without them having the huge advantage of the Mile high air and crowd. 

It's just a feeling. My dad is pounding the under. I may do the opposite.

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 08:06 PM

This is funny. The defense was the main problem the last two years. Not the offense. TT played a big part in the running game. he scored many rushing TDs. he didn't turn the ball over. Fewest passing attempts because of the strong run game. And he had a lot of big games with Watkins in 2015. Dishonest posting here.


And neither should we have lost the second Miami game last season. 

You must smoke a lot of meth. What's dishonest about stating yards passing per game? 189.8 yds per game last year, 208.9 year prior. 199.35 over two years. Fewest passing attempts because he can't throw the ball.



#152 JM2009

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 08:09 PM

You must smoke a lot of meth. What's dishonest about stating yards passing per game? 189.8 yds per game last year, 208.9 year prior. 199.35 over two years. Fewest passing attempts because he can't throw the ball.

Because we are a heavy running team. And what about the second Miami game and the bad defense against the better teams the last two years. How about all the points scored the last two seasons. 



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Posted 24 September 2017 - 07:11 AM

 

They can draft or trade for one, or sign on in FA.

 

I'd prefer to go QB and WR twice with the Bills first three picks. Having this group of WR is a disaster for most QB's,



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Posted 24 September 2017 - 07:33 AM

When its week 17, lets revisit this thread and see where the 49ers rank in the NFL on defense.

Fact: it was a divisional game on a short week. Sometimes divisional games get crazy (ie. Mia @ Buf last year).

The 49ers defense is and will be bad.

Keeping the Hawks from passing for 200 is like saying they kept us from passing for 200. Hardly an achievement.

That being said, i come away from yesterday's game with the following:

Its AMAZING what a great offensive mind can do to average Quarterbacks and offenses in general.

McVay and Shanahan were the real stars last night. Because of them, those franchises are headed in the right direction.


I think SF has some of the best young defensive talent in the NFL. Buckner and Thomas are porential superstars.

Didn't Trent break the record for highest completion percentage in a game by a Bill? :rolleyes:
 
28th and 30th in passing with Tyrod, that's all you have to know. The only time he orchestrates yards is when he hands the ball off. Dude averages under 200 yards passing per game. And people are on here defending him, which is even funnier. Absolutely no excuse to lose a game where your defense allows 9 points. He should be sitting on the bench.


The Bills were 7th in the nfl in offense after the miami game last year.