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#21 dneveu

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:48 PM

If they fire Rico, they will just promote Castillo!!

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#22 San-O

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:49 PM

So, "Rico" is nickname for Dennison?   :mellow:



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Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:50 PM



#24 bobobonators

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:51 PM

So, "Rico" is nickname for Dennison?   :mellow:


Kubiak called him Rico

#25 Gugny

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:52 PM

I like Dennison.

 

He's got a WR who can't catch and a QB who can't throw, which means teams are stacking the box and killing the run game.

 

How the hell is any of this his fault?



#26 RyanC883

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:52 PM

I don't think I've ever openly advocated for anyone to be fired this soon. In no specific order:

 

1. He was't McD's first choice to be the OC for the Bills; he was essentially the best option left on the table for the Bills.

 

2. His last stints as OC (Denver and Houston) his offenses have managed to finished 11th; 11th; 10th; and 31st (Houston)....then 18th; 21st (Denver); in points scored (we're currently 26th); much like Rex Ryan, his schemes and gameplans haven't evolved; his offenses have gotten stagnant or worse over the years. And that was with him being linked to Kubiak, who sometimes took over control of the playcalling at halftime according to Denver fans b/c it wasn't working out for the team (as per their message boards). Houston fans were happy to see him leave; Denver fans were really happy to see him leave. How many people here were actually happy to see Lynn leave? Not many. For good reason.

 

3. The guy is 60yrs old and he wasn't McD's first choice. Forget Tyrod, do we want Rico to be the OC for a rookie QB? Is this the offensive mind we intend to have groom our future QB? Is this the guy that's going to be here for the next 3-5yrs?

 

4. Dennison, in less than half a season, has managed to turn the #1 rushing offense in the league in 2015/2016, to a bottom-half rushing offense. Shady has one rushing game of +100yds this season; he has 4 consecutive games of garbage.  Shady has scored 0 Touchdowns so far. He is averaging 3.2yds per carry. His career low prior to this was 4.1ypc back in his rookie season.

 

4a. Tyrod is averaging 3.8 yds per rush; and he averaged 6.1 last season. Tyrod has zero rushing TD's as well; he had 6 last season. Tyrod and Shady have combined for ZERO RUSHING TD'S THROUGH 5 GAMES.  Let that sink in. This team was built to run the ball and its two main threats have a combined ZERO RUSHING TD'S. How we're even 3-2 is a miracle.

 

5. Miller and the offensive line dominated the run game last season; they look lost this season. Miller is now being benched in favor of Ducasse. Ducasse is not the future, he's garbage. If Rico thinks Ducasse is better than Miller, then that alone is an indictment of where Rico's worth to this team. This O-line clearly doesn't work well with Rico's run blocking scheme because the majority of the run plays the D-line is blowing up our O-line at the LOS. How many rushes has Shady had for -3 or -4 yards because the defender is in the backfield before Shady even has the ball.

 

What Rico is doing to this offense is no different than what Rex did to the defense.  Rico is taking players out of their element and making them perform functions they don't excel at in order to fit his antiquated scheme. Is this the guy we plan on developing our future QB? His play calling is wildly inconsistent, at best; it lacks imagination; it simply doesn't perform. His offenses haven't performed well since at least 2012.

 

Cut the cord now; the Bengals cut it and have vastly improved. We cut it last year with Roman and vastly improved. Rico is not the future for anyone currently on this offense or anyone that we'll be drafting next year.

 

 

I 100% agree with this.  He has "Rex'd" the offense.  Took great players and tried to impose a scheme onto them that does not fit.  He should be fired .  Roman may be available after the season?  Perhaps another OC will be available once they realize that our D is stout again.  



#27 PolishDave

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:52 PM

So, "Rico" is nickname for Dennison?   :mellow:

 

Yes.   Rumor is he is part Puerto Rican.



#28 Pbomb

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:52 PM

LOL how many OCs are we going to go through? 

exactly, maybe we should worry about the real problem, the qb

#29 RyanC883

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:53 PM

If they fire Rico, they will just promote Castillo!!

 

At least we get a new O-line coach.  50% victory?  



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Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:54 PM

It's difficult to blame the OC when there isn't much to work with.

 

I am tired of firing everybody at a moment's notice. If the offense still stinks as the talent level improves, then it's time to fire someone.

 

But right now there isn't much anyone can do.

 

And like I said in another............... when two of the team's highest paid players are firmly trenched in the doghouse....... it's a problem.



#31 GoBills808

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:55 PM

I like Dennison.

 

He's got a WR who can't catch and a QB who can't throw, which means teams are stacking the box and killing the run game.

 

How the hell is any of this his fault?

It's not. It wasn't Roman's fault, either. He was a terrific OC who got saddled with a bad quarterback who limited the playbook. There's only so many yards and points you can squeeze out of the run game while relying on simple passing concepts before other teams start shutting you down.



#32 bobobonators

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:55 PM

I like Dennison.
 
He's got a WR who can't catch and a QB who can't throw, which means teams are stacking the box and killing the run game.
 
How the hell is any of this his fault?


I liked Rex too. He was the kind of guy you wanted to have a beer with or invite over for a BBQ. But the results were what they were.

On a coaching level, what has Dennison ever done to give us confidence? Are we going to hang our hats on his success (which was probably tied to Kubiak) from 5+yrs ago? Thats very Rexy.

#33 Dr. K

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:57 PM

I don't think I've ever openly advocated for anyone to be fired this soon. In no specific order:

 

1. He was't McD's first choice to be the OC for the Bills; he was essentially the best option left on the table for the Bills.

 

2. His last stints as OC (Denver and Houston) his offenses have managed to finished 11th; 11th; 10th; and 31st (Houston)....then 18th; 21st (Denver); in points scored (we're currently 26th); much like Rex Ryan, his schemes and gameplans haven't evolved; his offenses have gotten stagnant or worse over the years. And that was with him being linked to Kubiak, who sometimes took over control of the playcalling at halftime according to Denver fans b/c it wasn't working out for the team (as per their message boards). Houston fans were happy to see him leave; Denver fans were really happy to see him leave. How many people here were actually happy to see Lynn leave? Not many. For good reason.

 

3. The guy is 60yrs old and he wasn't McD's first choice. Forget Tyrod, do we want Rico to be the OC for a rookie QB? Is this the offensive mind we intend to have groom our future QB? Is this the guy that's going to be here for the next 3-5yrs?

 

4. Dennison, in less than half a season, has managed to turn the #1 rushing offense in the league in 2015/2016, to a bottom-half rushing offense. Shady has one rushing game of +100yds this season; he has 4 consecutive games of garbage.  Shady has scored 0 Touchdowns so far. He is averaging 3.2yds per carry. His career low prior to this was 4.1ypc back in his rookie season.

 

4a. Tyrod is averaging 3.8 yds per rush; and he averaged 6.1 last season. Tyrod has zero rushing TD's as well; he had 6 last season. Tyrod and Shady have combined for ZERO RUSHING TD'S THROUGH 5 GAMES.  Let that sink in. This team was built to run the ball and its two main threats have a combined ZERO RUSHING TD'S. How we're even 3-2 is a miracle.

 

5. Miller and the offensive line dominated the run game last season; they look lost this season. Miller is now being benched in favor of Ducasse. Ducasse is not the future, he's garbage. If Rico thinks Ducasse is better than Miller, then that alone is an indictment of where Rico's worth to this team. This O-line clearly doesn't work well with Rico's run blocking scheme because the majority of the run plays the D-line is blowing up our O-line at the LOS. How many rushes has Shady had for -3 or -4 yards because the defender is in the backfield before Shady even has the ball.

 

What Rico is doing to this offense is no different than what Rex did to the defense.  Rico is taking players out of their element and making them perform functions they don't excel at in order to fit his antiquated scheme. Is this the guy we plan on developing our future QB? His play calling is wildly inconsistent, at best; it lacks imagination; it simply doesn't perform. His offenses haven't performed well since at least 2012.

 

Cut the cord now; the Bengals cut it and have vastly improved. We cut it last year with Roman and vastly improved. Rico is not the future for anyone currently on this offense or anyone that we'll be drafting next year.

 

Yes.



#34 Gugny

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:58 PM

I liked Rex too. He was the kind of guy you wanted to have a beer with or invite over for a BBQ. But the results were what they were.

On a coaching level, what has Dennison ever done to give us confidence? Are we going to hang our hats on his success (which was probably tied to Kubiak) from 5+yrs ago? Thats very Rexy.

 

I don't care about his past with other teams.

 

There is not an OC in history who could make this offense decent with the current roster.



#35 bobobonators

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:58 PM

It's difficult to blame the OC when there isn't much to work with.
 
I am tired of firing everybody at a moment's notice. If the offense still stinks as the talent level improves, then it's time to fire someone.
 
But right now there isn't much anyone can do.
 
And like I said in another............... when two of the team's highest paid players are firmly trenched in the doghouse....... it's a problem.


The problem is that we dont fire coaches soon enough. Rex shouldve been gone after week 2 last season. We let them linger, bring in their own crappy schemes and set the team back another 3yrs.

Now we are going to have to give Dennison 2-3yrs to bring in Olineman that can run his offense?

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 02:01 PM

I gave Dennison some credit for adapting the offense to Taylor's strengths after the Broncos/Falcons games.

But on Sunday, it seemed we were back to gluing our QB into the pocket.  No roll-outs.  No scrambles.  No option plays.

 

I agree 100% with the Rex Ryan comparison.  Especially on the O-Line.

The blocking scheme has been a disaster. 



#37 bobobonators

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 02:02 PM

 
I don't care about his past with other teams.
 
There is not an OC in history who could make this offense decent with the current roster.


Watkins and Woods were both out last yr at the same time. Shady got injured in the same game vs the Dolphins. We were missing Sammy, Woods, and Shady. And we still moved the ball, on the road, and scored what 25pts? Its been done.

Problem #1 the Oline cant run block. Thats a pretty large problem when youre built to run the ball, wouldnt you say? Its the equivalent of putting racing tires on a wrangler and being surprised when it cant function Offroad

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 02:05 PM

Watkins and Woods were both out last yr at the same time. Shady got injured in the same game vs the Dolphins. We were missing Sammy, Woods, and Shady. And we still moved the ball, on the road, and scored what 25pts? Its been done.

Problem #1 the Oline cant run block. Thats a pretty large problem when youre built to run the ball, wouldnt you say? Its the equivalent of putting racing tires on a wrangler and being surprised when it cant function Offroad

 

This is a tank season.  There's no talent on the offense by design.  It's silly to hold Dennison responsible for it.

 

This is the first part of the process.  Trust it.



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Posted 09 October 2017 - 02:12 PM

 
This is a tank season.  There's no talent on the offense by design.  It's silly to hold Dennison responsible for it.
 
This is the first part of the process.  Trust it.


Ok. So you want Dennison coaching up a 1st round rookie QB, and requiring at least 3 new offensive linemen bc the current olinemen we have cant block in his scheme? Miller was rated as one of the best OG last season; a really good young player. And now hes benched in favor of Ducasse. DUCASSE?!

We dont owe Dennison anything. He clearly wasnt McD's first choice. Its not working. Cut it loose now.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 02:13 PM

Dennison is every bit as bad as Hackett. Find a dynamic OC and draft Tyrod's replacement. Let Sean run the defense.