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#1 TheFunPolice

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 05:45 PM

In a word, the man is consistent. Look at his averages over 34 games here:

 

205 yards/game

1.26 TD/game

.4 INT/game

2.86 sacks/game

 

That is his stat line practically every week.

 

in 2017 his numbers are:

 

182 yards/game

1.2 TD/game

.4 INT/game

3.6 sacks/game

 

Pretty much identical to what he has done over his entire 34 game span here. He is what he is, which is also a GOOD THING for trying to win games. McDermott knows what he is going to get and can plan around it. He knows he'll get 1 or 2 TD and 200 yards with a turnover every other week.

 

Is it good enough to really win in this league? I don't think so. People point to the Chiefs and Alex Smith as a model. As good as the Chiefs are we all know what is going to happen when they play NE when the game really counts. Their career numbers are pretty close though (Smith and Taylor) although this season Smith is averaging about 100 yards a game more than Taylor, which is a career anomaly.

 

So yea, it can get a LOT worse. If a QB like Tyrod (who doesn't put up the passing yards to keep you in games or catch up) turns it over more you're likely 1-4 or 0-5 right now.

 

A guy like Tyrod has value as a solid backup long-term, but he is also a guy who has had just enough success to expect a starting role. It's too bad because he would be an amazing backup QB for the long-term guy. He's literally the definition of the perfect backup: consistent, takes care of the ball, good teammate, can get you a few wins without losing you games.

 

 



#2 Boatdrinks

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 05:47 PM

Yay another Tyrod thread! Check out the Peterman thread or numerous Tyrod threads. Should have posted there.

#3 NewEra

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 05:48 PM

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#4 Game Manager

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 06:26 PM

Consistently meh.

#5 Real McCoy

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 06:52 PM

OP conveniently takes out the rushing TD's and yards.



#6 Bangarang

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 06:53 PM

How comforting

#7 Brianmoorman4jesus

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 07:21 PM

182 yds per game in 2017 is just not good enough. You cant hit the qb, you cant touch the WRs, teams play fast and wide open. Just not good enough. We know what he is, we know what hes not....lets see the other guy

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 07:30 PM

Sorry. I'm tired of settling for a 182 yd per game manager. Mix in an occasional 4th qtr comeback. The TT era is over for me. Love to see Mason Rudolph compete with Peterman.

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 06:44 AM

 

 

In a word, the man is consistent. Look at his averages over 34 games here:


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Posted 11 October 2017 - 06:47 AM

And when he is still our starter week 1 2018 what happens to his may sayers? Peterman is garbage.

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 06:51 AM

And when he is still our starter week 1 2018 what happens to his may sayers? Peterman is garbage.


Let's waste 2018 with Tyrod as well ? No thanks.

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 06:51 AM

And when he is still our starter week 1 2018 what happens to his may sayers? Peterman is garbage.

Please no.   



#13 Boyst62

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 07:29 AM

Let's waste 2018 with Tyrod as well ? No thanks.

I'd rather him start 2018 than throw some rookie in with a young team, a line working on improving and lackluster WR's.

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 10:14 AM

And when he is still our starter week 1 2018 what happens to his may sayers? Peterman is garbage.

 

 

I'd rather him start 2018 than throw some rookie in with a young team, a line working on improving and lackluster WR's.

 

I am a Tyrod fan, but we do need an upgrade at some point.  I do see us drafting someone high, and then slowly bringing him along as a backup.



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Posted 11 October 2017 - 10:38 AM

 
 
 
I am a Tyrod fan, but we do need an upgrade at some point.  I do see us drafting someone high, and then slowly bringing him along as a backup.

I was more a fan of Fitz as a person because of his odd character. We ditched him too soon and look how that cost us. Taylor is better than Fitz because he doesn't make the mistakes and can connect on the long ball to our 5.6 second 40 yard dash speedsters.

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 10:44 AM

If a QB IS a must in 18 and the record doesnt matter we dont need TT

We have a backup already in NP

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 11:05 AM

The problem with this assessment of Taylors play is the averages are caused by the lowest passing attempts in the league something of which is determined by the OC 's in the Bills run heavy O.

 

Is the information accurate, sure, but the Bills also led the league in total rushing and average per attempt. ( previous season )


Edited by Figster, 11 October 2017 - 11:06 AM.


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Posted 11 October 2017 - 11:37 AM

Sorry. I'm tired of settling for a 182 yd per game manager. Mix in an occasional 4th qtr comeback. The TT era is over for me. Love to see Mason Rudolph compete with Peterman.

Absolutely! This is the guy I've been watching all season. Both Rudolph and Peterman have shown the ability to CHANGE the outcome of a game. That's the mental part of a QBs game you can't teach. They have it, Rosen has it, Darnold, Allen and Jackson... not so much. Taylor not at all.


Edited by billsfan60, 11 October 2017 - 11:38 AM.


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Posted 11 October 2017 - 11:40 AM

The problem with this assessment of Taylors play is the averages are caused by the lowest passing attempts in the league something of which is determined by the OC 's in the Bills run heavy O.

 

Is the information accurate, sure, but the Bills also led the league in total rushing and average per attempt. ( previous season )

 

the non volume driven stats arent any better.

 

2016 season he ranked:

 

19th in completion %

21st in yards per attempt

19th in yards per completion

18th in QB rating

25th in 4th quarter comebacks

27th in game winning drives



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Posted 11 October 2017 - 11:45 AM

 

the non volume driven stats arent any better.

 

2016 season he ranked:

 

19th in completion %

21st in yards per attempt

19th in yards per completion

18th in QB rating

25th in 4th quarter comebacks

27th in game winning drives

More the type of information that can tell you something.

 

thanks

 

Note: I will say again however, volume or non volume when a team pays more attention to one part of the O/run, another part/pass gets less attention/ attempts on the practice and playing field. 

 

There is no substitute for reps...


Edited by Figster, 11 October 2017 - 11:55 AM.