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#41 Drunken Pygmy Goat

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 10:30 AM

Tyrod struggles on the road. He always starts games slowly. Rarely do we score on the opening drive. If they don't fix this offense soon and get some players back, we'll be looking at another 7 win season.


The Bills have been a terrible first half offense, especially in the opening frame. The 3 points they scored in the first quarter in Cincinnati were the first and only 3 first quarter points all year.

A nice, long TD opening drive next Sunday would be great.

Bills looking for RB's?   We do need a backup, but WR is more pressing right now.  Can Dennison not succeed with Shady, Dennison needs to go! 
 
 
 
https://articles.new...back_report.amp

 
exactly.  Dennison is the major (not the only, but major) problem with the offense.   Top running game, to Shady having 1 100 yard game.   Nonsense.  


Execution has been the major problem. They have left way too many plays on the field this year, or had nice gains called back.

Dennison may not have a very creative run game, but he hasn't been the main problem. If anything, perhaps he sticks to the plan too much. But for the play-action to be most effective, he has to keep the defense honest, so I get it.

As others have stated, they should add some of what worked last year to the playbook. More pulling guards and center...it's easier to run when you have numbers on one side of the field, and hat on hat execution isn't as crucial. More option runs with Taylor and McCoy.

#42 billsintaiwan

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 11:33 AM

Taylor has been quite good when he has decent receivers playing.

Simple fact.

#43 Brianmoorman4jesus

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 12:04 PM

Taylor has been quite good when he has decent receivers playing.

Simple fact.

Based on what? Having bottom of the league passing stats for the entirety of his time as a starter? Or acting like a 7 year veteran still needs time to figure out that the WRs are there to throw to?

#44 26CornerBlitz

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 12:09 PM

Based on what? Having bottom of the league passing stats for the entirety of his time as a starter? Or acting like a 7 year veteran still needs time to figure out that the WRs are there to throw to?

 

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Tyrod Taylor in games with his top two pass-catchers ('15-'16: Watkins/Woods) ('17: Matthews/Clay): 64% completion, 7.04 YPA, 32 TD, 7 INT



#45 JohnBonhamRocks

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 01:24 PM

 

 

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Tyrod Taylor in games with his top two pass-catchers ('15-'16: Watkins/Woods) ('17: Matthews/Clay): 64% completion, 7.04 YPA, 32 TD, 7 INT

 

 

Duuuuuuuuude, stats and facts? That's all you can back up that point with? What about the eye test? 



#46 Brianmoorman4jesus

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 02:22 PM


 
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Tyrod Taylor in games with his top two pass-catchers ('15-'16: Watkins/Woods) ('17: Matthews/Clay): 64% completion, 7.04 YPA, 32 TD, 7 INT

2015 30th in completions 28th in passing yds
2016 32nd in completions 30th in passing yds
Where is that good?

#47 John from Hemet

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 02:23 PM

 

Duuuuuuuuude, stats and facts? That's all you can back up that point with? What about the eye test? 

The eye test....its always about the damn eye test!

 

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2015 30th in completions 28th in passing yds
2016 32nd in completions 30th in passing yds
Where is that good?

OMG....someone pulled out the passing yards card again



#48 Brianmoorman4jesus

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 02:23 PM

 
Duuuuuuuuude, stats and facts? That's all you can back up that point with? What about the eye test? 

Those are stats. Not eye test. Our passing game is terrible.

#49 26CornerBlitz

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 02:23 PM

2015 30th in completions 28th in passing yds
2016 32nd in completions 30th in passing yds
Where is that good?

 

Should he have designed the offense to be pass heavy on his own despite the run 1st philosophy that the coaching staff implemented?



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 02:24 PM

2015 30th in completions 28th in passing yds
2016 32nd in completions 30th in passing yds
Where is that good?

You know the stats he did well in each year, they've all been posted many times. Not much point in posting them again as they will go ignored as usual.



#51 Brianmoorman4jesus

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 02:27 PM

The eye test....its always about the damn eye test!
 
:P

OMG....someone pulled out the passing yards card again

The other guy used comp%. If you are throwing safe passes that lead to nowhere drives abd punts, who cares

 
Should he have designed the offense to be pass heavy on his own despite the run 1st philosophy that the coaching staff implemented?

Do you think if our OC thought we had a capable qb we would still be a run heavy offense? I mean come on. I get you are insta tyrod defender on every single thing but even you must get this. We were a run heavy offense because we know we couldnt throw. You think if we had Arron Rogers we are running all the time? Be objective here

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 02:28 PM

The other guy used comp%. If you are throwing safe passes that lead to nowhere drives abd punts, who cares
Do you think if our OC thought we had a capable qb we would still be a run heavy offense? I mean come on. I get you are insta tyrod defender on every single thing but even you must get this. We were a run heavy offense because we know we couldnt throw. You think if we had Arron Rogers we are running all the time? Be objective here

Your asking someone to be objective when your posting this drivel?



#53 Brianmoorman4jesus

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 02:29 PM

Your asking someone to be objective when your posting this drivel?

Any non Bills homer realizes how limited our passing offense is. Im not sure how anyone can even pretend otherwise?

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 02:31 PM

The other guy used comp%. If you are throwing safe passes that lead to nowhere drives abd punts, who cares
Do you think if our OC thought we had a capable qb we would still be a run heavy offense? I mean come on. I get you are insta tyrod defender on every single thing but even you must get this. We were a run heavy offense because we know we couldnt throw. You think if we had Arron Rogers we are running all the time? Be objective here

in 2015 he was 3rd in Air Yards per Attempt, 5th in Yards per Attempt, and 9th in ANY/A

 

You don't do that with 'safe passes that lead to nowhere drives abd punts'


Edited by BuffaloHokie13, 12 October 2017 - 02:32 PM.


#55 26CornerBlitz

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 02:31 PM

The other guy used comp%. If you are throwing safe passes that lead to nowhere drives abd punts, who cares
Do you think if our OC thought we had a capable qb we would still be a run heavy offense? I mean come on. I get you are insta tyrod defender on every single thing but even you must get this. We were a run heavy offense because we know we couldnt throw. You think if we had Arron Rogers we are running all the time? Be objective here

 

Wait??? Tyrod's not a franchise QB on the level of Aaron Rodgers?  Who knew?!?



#56 Brianmoorman4jesus

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 02:41 PM

 
Wait??? Tyrod's not a franchise QB on the level of Aaron Rodgers?  Who knew?!?

There is nothing in between the thing I said abd the thing you said...more then half of the qbs in the league would be trusted to throw more. We ran so much because we couldnt throw.

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 02:43 PM

There is nothing in between the thing I said abd the thing you said...more then half of the qbs in the league would be trusted to throw more. We ran so much because we couldnt throw ran better than every other team in the league.



#58 26CornerBlitz

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 02:44 PM

There is nothing in between the thing I said abd the thing you said...more then half of the qbs in the league would be trusted to throw more. We ran so much because we couldnt throw.

 

Of course.  It had nothing to do with the ground and pound philosophy of the head coach and the OC in Greg Roman who's known for his run heavy design.



#59 Rockinon

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 02:58 PM

2015 30th in completions 28th in passing yds
2016 32nd in completions 30th in passing yds
Where is that good?

The Bills were also #1 in the league in rushing those 2 years.  You can't lead the league in rushing yards and passing yards unless you are God or something.  Simple fact.  When you are very successful running the ball, you do not throw as much.  Those stats would actually mean something if you compared the production to number of snaps.  But of course you wouldn't want to go there, because completion percentage and yds per pass attempt are actually pretty good.  Why be so one demensional? 



#60 Brianmoorman4jesus

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:01 PM

 
Of course.  It had nothing to do with the ground and pound philosophy of the head coach and the OC in Greg Roman who's known for his run heavy design.

Lynn took over after week 2 last year. Didnt really do anything different. This year we dont look much different. We dont pass more because our qb is not a good passer. The other defenses realize it. Not sure why its an issue that im pointing it out.